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Buellgator
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What it sounded like to me was later on they will be adding a new bracket for the front mount like the one used for the tube frames. Also running the chin fairing will be optional as a bracket purchased separately. I am looking forward to this as I was hoping to get rid of the chin fairing anyway. I can understand your doubts.
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Misato
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

still nada
gator, did they tell you they are 'replacing' the 30 pipes when they get some done??
I dont like the term 'quick fix'
interesting
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Misato
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and another thing, if they do replace it what the hell is the difference between the regular force pipe and the nrhs pipe? wouldn't they have to do their tweaking again?
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Buellgator
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From what I understood from Dave was that they are replacing all 30 pipes. A few would go out with a "quick fix" solution and that these would then be replaced with the permanent solution. Don't quote me on that it's just what I gleaned from the conversation. Also that "pipes are shipping today" could have just been more smoke from Force.

You would have to ask NRHS what exactly they did to the pipe. Mine didn't even go to Nallin it got drop shipped directly from Force. I only got the PC and the O2 sensor from Nallin.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have no actual evidence...

I think the NRHS pipes are nothing more than Force pipes that were purchased via NRHS. I don't think NRHS was anything more than a re-seller for Force.
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Misato
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmm, I was under the impression that something was tweaked
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Misato
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I need a drink
feel free to stop by for a cold one. I always have 2 flavors in the kegerator.
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Xb9er
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

more smoke from Force

That's funny....

Mike.
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Prof_stack
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Misato, do you make your own beer? I've been doing it for 18 years. Here's what was in my kegerator last week:
Beer on tap anyone?
Sorry guys for hijacking the thread with pictures of non-Buells. Would you like to see how my hops are growing?
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Misato
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sweet. I have once. no place to do it in an apartment.. that has changed tho.. I have to buy all the stuff but I'm going to start making it in the garage. I usually go to snoqualmie to get it filled
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Usapitbullz
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you grow your hops with HID lighting? LOL!

Cool Setup!

L8R, JM
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Misato
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the dealer got the pipe today, bike is runing. he said it was scratched and dented, I haven't seen it yet.
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Buellgator
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That sucks Misato! I wonder how bad it is? I know my pipe didn't come packaged all that well. At least they weren't lying about it this time.
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Austinrider
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Misato and Buellgator -
My sympathies to you both. Although I have had no dealings with Force I do feel for you guys.

If you're ever in Austin, look me up first round is on me.

Buellgator - Do you live in Gainsville? I got some kin there that Im thinking of visiting this summer and would love to be able to "Demo" a bike for the day if possible.
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Buellgator
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Austin if you show up I'm sure we will be able to work something out.
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so, the dealer said the pipe wasn't cut into 3 pieces like dave told me..?? sounds like the same pipe I sent back but with dents and scratches.. I will get to pick it up sometime this week and I will take pics..
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Johncr250
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Congrats, i hope thats the last of your exhaust troubles!

You`ve got alot of riding to do to make up for the last few months!
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well, I just hope its not another 6 months to get the new pipe. I can live with the old one that is apparently scratched and dented..

on another note, its getting dyno'd today and I will have it tomorrow or thurs..
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Buellgator
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Misato I know it is a small consolation, but at least you are getting your bike back. I hope Force hurries up on the new pipe as I just ordered my motor parts today. Let us both hope that this is the downhill portion of your battle with Force.
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Usapitbullz
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So this is your old pipe with a quick fix?


L8R, JM
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm guessing so. I haven't seen it yet.
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Usapitbullz
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What a bunch of B.S. Keep your pipe for months and send you a quick fix instead of a new pipe. Now you have to remove the quick fix pipe for the new one, if it ever emerges, again costing more money and down time. Is Force totally oblivious to the fact that they are about to be black balled by the people on this board.

I'm getting the feeling that they "Force" are hoping people will just get tired of the situation and give up.

Fucking Amazing!

L8R, JM
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Kds1
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm just one dumbass hillbilly and I've never heard of such shit as this...Misato, I hope they get you up and running so you can resume burning the road...KEVIN
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, I've given up on Force.

Sorry for your experience Misato. At least you have the original back. Buy a welder maybe? Screw force. If I was running a high performance engine building shop I would most definitely switch product.
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Misato
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

except it now has dents? I'll see it tomorrow.. so thurs nite I'll have the first pics of my bike in 6 MONTHS.
the polished primary and cam covers look GOOD

now I can do the swingarm and frame
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Captainplanet
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Misato,

Can't wait to see the pics of your bike with the polished primary and cam covers. Good luck with the pipe.

I need to polish those covers on mine, but the weather is just too nice to tear the bike down again.
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Kcbill
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT
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Curtyd
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT

The only folks making money in those suits are the same law firms who specialize in them. Class members get like 15 dollars and change a piece and the law firm walks with hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees. Trust me, opt out and get your own atty after you pursue every out of court remedy FIRST.
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Buellgator
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would think about it if Force were not doing what they are to resolve the issue at hand. Maybe Misato would as I'm sure his bitterness towards them stretches a little bit further than mine. I'm not saying that Force did everything they could to resolve the issue and I am sure that they will feel the repercussions of this as there are many XB owners here on the board who will probably never buy another thing with the name Force Motor Products attached to it. Class action would get us absolutely no where and help to buy another lawyer that new Jag he has his eye on. We would probably end up putting Force out of business with it and none of us would get anything out of it. Certainly no new pipes and maybe a fraction of our money back, that probably wouldn't be enough to go buy a whole new exhaust system. I think that the most powerful thing we can do is to make sure that Force knows we are unhappy and to just keep our wallets closed. Also let anyone who owns one of these bikes that if you are buying from Force read this thread first and buy at your own risk.
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