| Author | Message | ||
     Jocarr83 |
I cant remember the website to go find out which gas stations had top tier gas. Can anyone tell me what the web site was? | ||
| Vospertw |
This one? http://www.toptiergas.com/ | ||
| Sloppy |
I try to buy my gasoline based upon this website. Become part of the solution... http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/ | ||
| Bads1 |
Can't really go off of either those site's LOL | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
the second site is hog wash. | ||
| Bads1 |
So is the first. | ||
| Andymnelson |
I'm not arguing your point...but for those of us that have never heard of either site before now, an explanation of why they are "hogwash" would lend credence to your statement... | ||
| Bads1 |
Because many of those oil companies get there gas from the same refineries. For instance my Brother owns a BP and a Mobil gas comes from the same place. Some of the additives are different but they don't change the fuel really much. The one station (THE BP) was at one time a 66 and a Sin Clair under ownership with my family. Gas still coming from the same place. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
Well my reason for saying ti is hog was is due to the fact that if you read the list of oil companies that "support terror" and then do the research to find out were the oil companies get there oil you would realize quickly they are full of crap. The US department of energy can give you a more accurate list than the one that site has of which country's really use middle eastern oil. Not that it matters because there is No proof any were that buying middle eastern oil funds any terrorist activity. If you really want do your own research. http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_top.asp | ||
| Bumblebee |
I guess it all depends on where you live. Here in California, the Bay Area fuel content is highly regulated. As near as I can tell we have four refineries here, which I presume is where the majority of fuel is supplied from, these are Chevron, Shell, Conoco/Phillips Tesoro, and Valero, all reputable. So it would seem to me that fuel would come from these and not be trucked in. We have Chevron, Shell, Conoco/Phillips (sold as "76") and Valero fuel retailers, but rarely do you see a Tesoro fuel retailer in the bay area - until you are in the central valley. So, my point is: where ever you buy fuel it will be from one of these refineries. I have it on good authority (a truck driver that delivers fuel) that all of the fuel has a base additive package, and whether or not anything is removed or added on loads destined for "non branded" stations is unclear. Regular and premium come from different hoses, as does "red dye" off road use and "clear" diesel fuel - but gasoline all appears to be the same regardless of the recipient. Rarely is "name brand fuel" delivered to non name brand stations, however sometimes "left-over fuel" is delivered to fuel jobbers with fuel depots. So I would assume if you pulled into a Chevron, Shell, 76 or Valero station the branded product would be from the associated refinery - but the mom & pop (which there are fewer and fewer)the source of the fuel is from a jobber - and it could be a mix of several brands. Around here, in recent years I haven't received any "bad gas" lately - but when I am out in the sticks I always try to go with a name brand. There is one other thing - most stations now have single hose pumps, meaning the different grades are all dispensed from the same hose. The question is, how much fuel must flow from the pump before the grade you selected is dispensed? Not really an issue to a car with an 18 gallon tank -but on a motorcycle, it could be an issue. Any of this make any sense? I really don't know for certain, I'm just going by what I was told...YMMV. | ||
| Sloppy |
Thanks for the link FB - and yes, I will do the research! | ||
| Dancing_dogs |
FYI....BP and Mobil are sister companies....I just can't remember which one bought the other....but I think BP owns Mobil....  To each their own but I always seek out Top Tier gas. | ||
| Bads1 |
FYI....BP and Mobil are sister companies....I just can't remember which one bought the other....but I think BP owns Mobil.... To each their own but I always seek out Top Tier gas. Thats interesting since my Brother owns a BP and a Mobil and is presently in negotiations for BP to buy out his Mobil contract so both stores can be MOBIL?? Where in the heck did you get that?? | ||
| Froggy |
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2009/04/16/afx6298 413.html I cant find anything online to back you up Dancing_dogs. | ||
| Bads1 |
why back anyone up Froggy??? Seems you investigate everything said.lol | ||
| Froggy |
I was trying to confirm it whichever way it was, because I was curious as I never heard it before.  One of these days I will back you up on something | ||
| Terrys1980 |
BP and Mobil may have some tie-ins but this wouldn't be going on if it were a full merger. http://www.ngonewsafrica.org/2009/11/ghana-bp-batt les-exxon-mobil-over-ghana.html Also I work in the Gulf of Mexico oil and gas industry, BP and Exxon Mobile are separate clients for us. | ||
| Dancing_dogs |
Forgive me, it was Amoco they bought, not Mobil. Mobil hooked up with Exxon. | ||
| Dancing_dogs |
I'm still only using top tier gas....regardless. | ||
| Bads1 |
What top tier gas.LOL | ||
| Dancing_dogs |
I always use Shell gas.  | ||
| Toecutter |
Believe what you wish about "Top Tier", but I'll bet that if I were to blend my own additive package into some gasoline in my garage, I could get Toecutter's Buell Fuell rated as "top Tier" the moment that they cash my check. I also believe that the test they conduct to approve a Top Tier candidate's fuel has more to do with banking than chemistry. I have been using Marathon, BP, Exxon/Mobil, Philips 66 (aka Conoco) for years and never have had any fuel related issues on any vehicles. I don't use Citgo, but that has nothing to do with the quality of their fuel. I know that all of these fuels come from the same fuel depot, and the additive package is blended when the fuel is loaded onto the tanker truck. So, if you like one brand's additive package over another then go for it. That being said, I would prefer that everyone purchase their gasoline at Marathon, Speedway, or SuperAmerica, as I have a few shares of MRO in my portfolio. (Message edited by toecutter on March 07, 2010) | ||
| Delta_one |
All I know is that in my mild tuned Jetta some companies gas always runs like crap. the car is high compression and requires premium only. | ||
| Bads1 |
I'll buy gas from any of the above.... just not Arab owned... sorry. A large Majority play games with Fuel prices in my area. And most are not well kept to boot. | ||
| California69gs |
aww bumblebee.........why did you say that? "There is one other thing - most stations now have single hose pumps, meaning the different grades are all dispensed from the same hose. The question is, how much fuel must flow from the pump before the grade you selected is dispensed? Not really an issue to a car with an 18 gallon tank -but on a motorcycle, it could be an issue. " Now I'm gonna be all paranoid about this. Makes me think I should just buy regular and add octane out of a bottle to be sure I'm putting 92-93 in my tank......lol | ||
| Bads1 |
No issue | ||
| Froggy |
No issue +1 (See I got your back! ) I would have to dig up the post again, Ft_bstrd contacted a pump manufacturer about that, they estimated something like in a worst case scenario a quart of low octane is pumped, and mathematically figured out the dilution and determined the octane rating at worst would be still over 92 octane. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
so in other words If you really want to make sure you don't get the lower grade you can carry a quart sized bottle with you to the gas station and fill the quart sized bottle up then fill your bike up and take the quart of gas home to put in the lawn mower. | ||
| Toecutter |
...or you could just wait until you see any car from the list in this link: (http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2008-04-11-cha rt-premium-gas_N.htm) pull into the gas station, and wait until they are finished. It's a big list, so be sure to keep a copy tucked in your map pocket or something. I personally don't give it a second thought, but if you are willing to carry a quart jug with you, then why not the list? | ||
| Drkside79 |
Most all gas is OK now days. All consumer gas companies have to adhere to federal guidelines on cleanliness. For what its worth I still dislike speedway and would have to be desperate to get gas there. I also enjoy shell because they have nice TV's to watch the strange Asian man talk about how happy he is to see everyone. | ||
| Bads1 |
Its not even a quart. I can say I've changed filters in pump's. They back flush sorta speak.If a half coffee cup of gas in in the hose thats it. Its safety issue for fire hazard. |
