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Fbolt
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I figured that while I have the pipe out for a Drummer, I'll change the plugs/wires. I did a search and it seems the only other plugs used were NGK Iridiums. Any other plugs being used out there? Wires?

BTW-Bubba, I recieved the stuff in the mail. It was like XMas!

Ran a dyno Sat. prior to taking off the pipe:

1st pull: Roll on with 75.3 hp
2nd pull: Run through the gears with 74.5 hp
3rd pull: Roll on with 73.8 hp

Getting stoked to see what will happen with the mods! Turn around time with the Drummer anyone?
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the Pro-Series. No complaints. When these are ready to be changed I'll probably be getting iridium ones.
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Xb9er
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Denso Iridiums?

I'm using the NGK Iridiums with stock wires.

At the same time I switched plugs, I put on the XB12 Airbox, K&N filter, rerouted the breather hoses and removed the snorkel. After all this my bike is running cooler, it seems. No temp measurements, just the fan dropping from fast to slow in just under 15 sec. or so, then shorter time running at slow speed than it used to. The fan used to run every time I stopped at lights (regardless of ambient temp.) but hasn't been doing that lately. Still using same oil and riding style is the same.

Not sure what made such a noticeable difference, but I am definitely not complaining.

Mike
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fbolt
christmas in april,very cool.

make sure you warm the engine before ya run it.

charlie in VA went to his local dyno and got a run done. He wasn't happy. He came down with the dyno's and showed them to me. The drummer had actually lost power, so I ask some questions and it sounded like they didn't warm it up.

so we dyno'ed it here and charlie was in the dyno room with me, ooooh I was breaking the rules there, so he knows no funny business was involved.
and he is happy now. 80 at the wheel and good smooth curve across.

Dyno's are like computers, garbage in garbage out.
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Spooky
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

plus it depends on the garbage running the dyno.
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Sparky
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buells are American made bikes, so I run American made spark plugs, Torque Masters, made right here in SoCal. Sure, they cost more than 'ordinary' plugs but, hey, they work better and I never have to gap or index them.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the link there Sparky!
that kinda sounded smart-assed didn't it?
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Creepingmee
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 03:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just use champions. Pay a buck a piece for 'em and pitch 'em every oil change! why not?
They're cheap and the motor is always a bit smoother when you put in those brand new plugs.

-Marc
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Fbolt
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the input. I'll be going with the NGK Iridiums with stock wires.
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Sparky
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"...the motor is always a bit smoother when you put in those brand new plugs..."
Aah, that's because the traditional style plugs wear out (erode) the electrodes so fast that there are increasingly less desireable sparking surfaces to work with. This places greater loads on the ignition system to maintain a certain level of performance you expect until misfires start to occur and performance suffers. If you run a stock ignition system, then $1 Champions will suffice, and you change your plugs. OK, that's cool. But will they last 200,000 miles? I don't think so.

Sparky
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Buellgator
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Alright Sparky,

So you don't gap your plugs. WHY???
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Unibear12r
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 04:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can't gap Torque Masters-the outer electrode is a ring with a fixed position.
So just how good are Torque Masters working for you Sparky?
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Fbolt
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Holy Schnike Batman-the Drummer sounds freakin awesome. Will attach all mods this weekend and get the TPS rest as well.

BF-great product!
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Sparky
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I put 39,500 miles and counting on the original Torque Masters on my oldest Buell, a 96 Lightning, and they are still running strong. No pops or misfires from startup, idle to redline. This bike runs the Screamin' Eagle coil.

The 98 Thunderbolt ran the hotter range Torque Masters (equivalent to 6R12) for 16,250 miles then I switched to the colder range TMs (pn 12SVN2R2). Those have been in for 36750 and are likewise running strong. This bike also runs a SE coil.

The '03 Firebolt has been running TMs for 17,500 miles or so and their performance is impressive especially with the stock ignition system.

Those are actual mileages from my service records. Overall I'm pretty impressed with Torque Masters performance, consistency and longevity.

Thanks for asking,
Sparky
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