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Radioelasais
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ciao

I put my XB12 to storage 1 month and half ago and I disconnected the battery from ground at its terminal as usual. I left it alone for all the time and it has been quite cold, down to 10F and lower last week. Bike had been running with no issue whatsoever.

Tomorrow we should have fair and warm weather (45F finally!) so I was planning to ride it for a couple hours but NO POWER AT ALL!! No lights! No ignition! No ECM check! No dashboard! Battery seems dead but I checked with a voltmeter and I read 12.8V. Fuses seem OK and there is 12.8V at their sockets.

What the heck is going on here?

Gianluca
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Gowindward
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gianluca, Check the relays...try swapping them around in the sockets as a quick check for a bad one. Of course always check the last think you touched or changed.

Loren
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check the ground to the frame from the battery and at the battery again.
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Radioelasais
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks

-ground is OK (continuity with battery and with the frame ina couple points)
-relays swapped
-didn't touch anything, lights were OK while parking the bike 1.5 months ago after a 1.5hr ride

NO power.

gianluca
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hook up the battery, turn on the ignition, and then measure the voltage across the battery and see what it is...

I think I have to take my kid to basketball practices, and if I ride tomorrow it will be on the dirt bike... you are welcome to borrow my battery if it ends up being the difference between riding or not...
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, and give the battery terminals (on the wire and the battery) a good shining with some sandpaper, then hook back up. They may just be oxidized.
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Radioelasais
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey thanks for the offer.

Battery is gone... checked again a few seconds ago and I am reading now 2.8V ... That's a bit weird btw (I am sure it was 12.8V ... no misreading as I checked many many times)

I will bring it for a charge to the dealer first thing in the morning. If not recheargeable I'll get a new one, it is 2-3 years old.
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Ulyssesmatt
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 12.8 volts sounds more troubling to me than the 2.8 reading. 12.7 volts represents a 100% charge according to my service manual (12.6 volts is only a 75% charge and 11.8 volts is a 0% charge). Are you sure that your multimeter is functioning properly? Does your dealer check the battery for free?
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Fudge1340
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

its probably a shot battery, on my husbands 04 1200 sportster it had a new 6 month old harley battery in it and he left it for 2 months of 25 degree weather and it would not turn over the engine even in a 80 degree heated work shop and 24hrs. on high charge, although the lights and the horn worked fine , battery read 12.5 volts.

We put a new battery in it right from the harley dealer and it started right up.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can get a charger cheap, but I think you may still be under warranty so maybe better to go to the dealer...

Probably a result of that bike sitting at Aces and Eights for so long on the floor. Glad you bought it, or I might have cracked ; )
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Radioelasais
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

recharged (for free while waiting for my buddy's car at a body shop) ... the bike started with no issue at all ... not even a cough! just like a caterpillar.

sad side of the story is that its foggy, 35F and wet

i will store the battery in the basement next time. i hope i do not need to but it new.

btw, reepicheep, you are right. i got the bike from the dealer (HD eastgate actually) as a 07 leftover with 0 miles on it but the battery was 2 years old. any chance I can have it replaced under warranty if it dies within the 1st year? I am not sure that would be covered.

OH! yes, I got the XB with quite a good price ... 8k out of the door for a XB12STT. I wish Buell was still in business.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Find out what the start date is on your warranty. Battery should be covered for 2 years from that date. If you store the battery in the basement, put it on a piece of wood. Don't set it on the concrete.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Battery should be covered for 2 years from that date.




It is a YMMV, some have reported that they were unable to get it replaced under warranty.


quote:

Don't set it on the concrete.




Why? Sitting it on any material wouldn't affect its charge or life.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is a YMMV, some have reported that they were unable to get it replaced under warranty.

Yep, I should have said,"Battery may be covered for 2 years from that date". I also should have used a disclaimer like, "Your experience may vary".




quote:
Don't set it on the concrete.
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Why? Sitting it on any material wouldn't affect its charge or life.


Acid eats concrete. Till my neighbor borrowed my battery box, I would store batteries in it. I would at the least put it on a piece of wood. I messed up a floor with a battery that leaked.
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Radioelasais
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for the hints. btw I've ridden the bike for a couple of hours this afternoon

me? I didn't remember how much I love it
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