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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ive been riding less as it gets colder but as much as possible to work. Lately cold starts are a little more cumbersome but she still starts. Sometimes though my clock and trip meters will reset.

It happens like this:

The bike starts a little slow

it starts but the gauges sweep again and the clock resets.

I was thinking maybe my battery leads were loose but Ive double checked them. 77 connector looks brand new on the inside. Checked battery voltage today and everthing looks good.

Any other culprits for these symptoms?
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My XBS does that as well. Rumor has it that's the sign of the battery beginning to go out.

I just plug it into the battery tender every night now and it's fine.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most likely the battery.
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not the battery going out. The electronics run on minimal voltage. The clock works when the switch is off.

It's a loose connection. Clock resets when power is lost, not weak. Check the battery cables first, then check the power to the module, then check the module ground.

If you don't have a manual, maybe somebody could post what colour wire is the power to the ECM.
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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A weak battery _will_ cause this as well.

Been there. Replaced that.

Make your next battery last longer & get a tender.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A loose connection would cause this to happen more erratically.

If it 100% ONLY happens when cold starting, when the starter pulls ALL the power the cold battery has to give... it's the battery.


Edited to add: I'm not saying it's never a loose connection or worn wire. I know some of our resident high mileage Uly guys (Mark and Vern) were discussing just a couple weeks ago which wire wears through to cause the clock to short out. I'm just saying, when it starts happening on startup, when the temperature drops, it's the battery.

(Message edited by mikef5000 on November 14, 2009)
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks guys. Its not an erratic occurrence. It happens only on cold startup when Im not riding every day. Ive checked the battery terminals and ground to frame. Based on some reading and other posts Iam leaning towards old weak battery. I need to see how old it is. I bought the bike used over a year ago.
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Randomchaos
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 04:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine is doing the same thing. Worse when its colder out as well. If I let it sit for over 12 hours, it will reset everything when I crank it over. Definitely a battery issue. Battery might hold the volts fine, but could be loosing its cranking amps. Starter draws so much amperage, that the rest of the electronics loose power.
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Midknyte
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go to a boutique [HD shop] and have it load tested.

If you need a new bat - take it home with you and install it yourself. You'll save nearly the cost of another battery over their installation fee. No joke.

Also, charge the new battery before using it.

Also, charge the new battery before using it.

Also, charge the new battery before using it.
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

get a new battery or wait till spring if you are winterising it
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Miko_k
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had the same problem, got a Scorpion 260CCA battery, a whole 1lb heavier than the factory one, problem solved. It is the YTX14HL-BS 260CCA and not the YTX14-BS 200CCA. I suspect that an XB12 with an XB9 primary sprocket will start even harder.
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Obiewan
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The cure,
Tap the starter, then do full start.
Problem is, the Buell's have high torque and when starting the voltage drops below the threshold of what keeps the clock up, especially when it's cold. I have the same problem. It will do it even with a new battery. I use this method, and it has not reset since.

I hope this helps.
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Gunut75
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine is doing the same thing. First it was a loose positive connection on the battery. Fixed it temporarily. Now it does it again. Slow stating. Battery tender cures it temporarily. You will probably need a new battery soon. I'm just trying to get mine to last till the bike comes inside for the couple months I dont ride in winter. Comeonnnnnn baby!
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Road_kill
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow! I wonder if my bike caught wind of this thread

08 Uly with 24k miles on it. Battery tender twice a month. Usually drive it 4+ days a week. I'm in South Georgia and the weather is great these days (50F-70F). The Uly has been a real reliable starting bike ... until ... it started to reset clock & trip odometers during difficult start-ups this week. Cold or hot engine - it didn't matter - it took two or three attempts to get it cranked up and keep running.

I've done the ground bulletin in the past. The battery open circuit voltage was 12.8V; while running, voltage is 14.6V

Bought a new battery at the dealership this afternoon; brought it home, charged it, and installed it 10 minutes ago and all is good again.
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Billp
Posted on Monday, November 23, 2009 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on the battery. My 039s did the same clock reset thing even though it started ok. I did't know if it was my imagination or not but it seems to pause for a fraction of a second when I started it.

I took the battery to HD and they said it was ok on the bench test but I replaced it anyway and it fixed my problems.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 06:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the same pause on startup Billp. Iam probably done riding this year so I'll just wait till spring for a new one.
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

New battery last weekend remedied startup pause on city-x at 18K. Make sure you research the hookup of the non-hd battery if that is the route you choose. DAMHIK. B.
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Fahren
Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The pause at startup happens a lot and has more to do with making that tight engine move from a standstill than anything else. HD batteries are good for xb engines, since they are designed to get a big v-twin cranking. Don't cheap out on a less $ alternative. Love HD or hate 'em, Erik still put together our bikes with the parts they have for a reason.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The cheap alternatives are only a few bucks less than the HD battery. If you are going to spend the money, spend more than twice the cost and get a Lithium battery : )
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Rah7777777
Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mine did it with a weak 5 year old battery....

bought a new one, trickle charged it for a few days and installed.

has not done it since.
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