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Jraice
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So now that I have been getting very consistent with the first half of the wheelie, what are the techniques for setting it down nice and smooth!

Sometimes it goes down smooth for me, especially when going up hills. Most of the time its a small jolt and every now and then its a harder hit.

Got the nice long travel Ss suspension as well.

Problem is that it runs out of rev's fast in 1st so its not like I can just roll off to settle it down slowly...

Any ideas?

BTW, watching the movie "Faster" and seeing those 500cc two strokes wheelie out of corners at 100+mph makes me majorly jealous, that would be neat to be able to just roll on the gas and loft a wheel!
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Greg_e
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those 500cc bikes may actually have programming to help prevent the wheelies. Think about that.
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Fast1075
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nahhh...Greg...the programming was inside the helmet....some of them did have slipper clutches though...
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Jraice
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Haha I love how both the first two posts are about my little ending statement : p.

Any tips for landing my wheelies smoother? I yes I am riding a Buell not an RG500 (I wish).
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Greg_e
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most of them had different timing for the first few gears to try and keep the front wheel on the ground.

How about shift to the next gear and put more power on it? If it doesn't have enough power to hold the wheel up it should come down somewhat gently. If it does have the power it will sustain for a while.

My 9R didn't want to wheelie last night, just spins the tire and goes faster. A lot of it depends on your weight and I have no mass so it just goes forward that much faster. Of course it was also the first real ride on my bike so time will tell. I need to work on the damping and maybe even change the rear spring since I'm on the lightest setting and it still seems too stiff.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

BTW, watching the movie "Faster" and seeing those 500cc two strokes wheelie out of corners at 100+mph makes me majorly jealous, that would be neat to be able to just roll on the gas and loft a wheel!




Buy a CR. : )


As for the wheelies, I try and roll off the throttle very slightly before reach redline, or give the rear brake a tap. I never have been really concerned about it, I am yet to blow a seal on any of my 5 Buell's that I owned.
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Take your 1st gear technique and move it to the second gear. You're right, it's a 1st gear issue.
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Glen
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

also try and get the front up high early in the gear, if you get it high enough you can keep a steady throttle and just balance, no need to run it to redline and slap it back down. also lets you gas it as the wheels coming down and takes the weight off the front.
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Jraice
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the tips guys... a 2nd gear wheelie would be amazing but everyone makes it seem so easy!

Between the long wheelbase and forward set bars I cant get the wheel to even unweight much, let alone wheelie!

With a bump, yes 2nd gear, even 3rd will loft it but just straight line it doesnt have the juice for it.
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you could set it up for gp shift so it is easier to just drop it into second and set it down. it would still be a feat.
or try clutching it up from a rolling start in 1st and then just ride it out?

if you could master the balance point you'd be golden... i'm to chicken to even try and learn on mine.
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Jraice
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

See thats the thing... I have gotten it pretty high up there (pictures verify this, I know it feels high even when its a few inches) but I am not looking to do a balance point wheelie.
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Nillaice
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ya just gotta buy enuff time to make a sure shift to the next gear so you can bring her down easy without running out of RPMs
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Jraice
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 02:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Basically shift mid wheelie?

Easier said then done.
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Nillaice
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 04:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

basically, yes. and yeah it's not easy to pull it off.

or try clutching it up from a rolling start in 1st and then just ride it out

but i'm no 'one wheel allstar' so
it's not like i can go into any detail, but -ahem- i'm just talking out my ass
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Jraice
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Clutching it up in first would just get the wheel up earlier in the RPM band (slower speed) so I have more room to ride it out, yes?

Thanks guys... I guess 2nd gear wheelies really arent possible without clutching it up :/.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I clutch my X1 up in first if I want any height out of the wheelie.. can never seem to get more than a foot off the ground with throttle alone.

Then again, I'm always scared to try carrying the wheelie into the upper RPM range because I don't want to drop it hard.
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Jraice
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Im usually in the range of 3,000-3,500 when I power it up in first, I can get it up with 2/3's throttle easily. Full throttle without letting off would easily loop it.

Now 2nd gear, not even an inch :/.
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like to amke em go fast but I like the wheels on the ground and being as I am portly a husky child was I the tip point aint so far if you get my drift
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Niceguyeddy
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2nd and about 5k did it for me...mine lifts in at LEAST 3 of 5 anyway. Up the scg.
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