| Author | Message | ||
     Jraice |
Need new brake pads, am having new tires put in on Saturday, would love to have them tossed in in the process but dont mind a DIY job afterwards... Anyways... OEM's are crazy expensive, I want to try out something new. Lyndall gold (also saw Z model, dont know about those) seems to be a good choice. Where can I get them for the XB12Ss (8 piston caliper)? My shop is going to see if they can get some but if they cant by Saturday, my backup is online. Also any need to break them in or just go out and ride? This is an expensive month for the bike! $330's for tires, $65's for brake pads, $40's for the oil change, $180 for the track day, probably another $100's for the track day (26th of this month, first one, yay!) misc supplies... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
American Sport Bike | ||
| Jraice |
Duh! Wow I cant believe I didnt think to look there... | ||
| Jraice |
Can someone explain to me why he is selling them for $100's and Harley said they are around $60? | ||
| Froggy |
American Sport Bike has the ZTL1 Lyndals for $55, my guess is your local hogs have the wrong part. | ||
| Jraice |
Possible... Can anyone confirm? If so I am ready to order them from American Sport Bike this second... Need to gather all the parts to get my bike track worthy before the 26th  . New pads, tires, oil... | ||
| Jraice |
Well I trust that Al wouldnt rip anybody off so I am going to assume the shop was wrong (honestly I recognized the guys voice, he is not the brightest guy in the shop) on the price. Ordered the pads and some other stuff like an oil filter and a gasket. Didnt even know he carried stuff like that, now I wont need to drive to the Buell dealer anymore! Cant wait to meet him in October, going with my entire family to his little riding weekend rally thing in the Sierra's. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
These are the ones you want: Lyndall's Gold 7203-G I can't find it on the American Sport Bike website, but that doesn't mean anything. I've often been unable to find a particular part on there. Mostly, I must just suck at using their search function. | ||
| Al_lighton |
rears: http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/5431.html (3rd option) front, 6 pot: http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/5430P.html (3rd option) front, 8 pot: http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/9260.html (lyndall) Al | ||
| Al_lighton |
But, if it is for track duty, I'd probably use something else, at least if I was running in advanced or advanced intermediate. If novice or normal intermediate, they'll be fine. | ||
| Jraice |
Al_lighton... are you American Sport Bike Al or another Al? Check your e-mail! I dropped you a note, want a few more things thrown in with the order. And yes those are the ones I went for. Ill be doing one track day (for now) on them and it will be my first... Mostly street use. Break in? | ||
| Figitt |
I installed some of those pads myself, and was surprised at the performance of them. Not impressed. They require some warm up before they perform as well as stock. I have learned and gotten use to them.... but the first 20 times i left the house and braked hard into the first right hander, I screamed and squeezed.... they do tend to fade when real real hot too... but they cool very fast on street rides. | ||
| Jraice |
Figitt... interesting. First I've heard of a negative review of the golds. | ||
| Fahren |
How 'bout "Braking" sintered CM55's? | ||
| Andymnelson |
jraice, look at the reviews of them- most people like the lyndahls because of 2 main reasons: 1) lack of build up on rotor and therefore no pulsing brakes (although some still get pulsing, and the pulsing can be avoided with other pads by not holding the front brake while stopped), and 2) because of their lack of initial bite like the stock pads. number 2 would be a huge negative in my book, but some see it as a postive...so I think that the "negative" review above is really saying the same thing as all the positive ones, just from a different perspective. what are you looking for in a different set of pads? from what I have read, increased braking performance is not a benefit of the lyndahls. | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
I have Lyndall Gold's on my XB9S and yes they do take some getting used to. They don't have an initial bite, they're just very progressive. I didn't like them at all for the first few weeks. I've been running them for a long time and I'm used to them now. I still haven't tried them out at the track. I wouldn't recommend going to the track right after swapping to the Lyndalls. You're going to need some time to adjust to them. | ||
| Sloppy |
Lynd's are okay for the street, but I'd use the all organic compound. I did notice increased wear on the rotor with Lynd's gold - nothing scientific, but I did notice a jump in wear. DID NOT LIKE Lynd's for the track. Sintered - EBC, DP, etc are much better. If you are going for street pads, I'd recommend organics. When you do a track day, swap to sintered. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I have used the Lyndall's for street and track days. I like them. I ride intermediate, so I wasn't pushing them as hard as the advanced group. I understand they are more likely to develop fade than the EBC-HH or others. They have a very predictable progressive feel. I don't tend to clamp down on the brakes but prefer to be able to use the brakes to settle the suspension and then roll into the braking. I've ridden the EBCs and they had an immediate hard bite. There was nothing in between. They also take a little while to warm up. I'm assuming most of the "racing" pads do. | ||
| Rsh |
Careful running the Lyndall carbon kevlar gold pads, they are very hard on the rotors. For the street I would run OEM or EBC pads. For high performance applications, EBC Extreme Pro Series pads are very good. I will not use Lyndall's again. YMMV | ||
| Fahren |
If you are going for street pads, I'd recommend organics. Yeah - I saw those - I don't know what the deal is with those. Got some light to shed on the organic thing, or a link to something to read on them? thx.} | ||
| Sloppy |
3 main types of pads - organic, semi-metalic or sintered. There are others, but these are what you typically see in the stores. Organics are the best choice for street riding as they have consistent performance when cold. They also have the least amount of rotor wear. The negative is that if they are run very hot they will fade in performance. So you don't use these on a track. Semi-Metallics are a cut above organics as metal and / or kevlar is added for additional friction and higher temperature. Inbetween performance of organic and sintered. Problem is they do have high rotor wear. IMO, Semi-metallics are slowly moving out of favor in preference to sintered. Sintered are powdered mixture of compounds (metal, organics, ceramics, etc) that are fused at high temperature and pressure. These are the pads to use for high temperature applications and high velocity descents. They consistently haul you down from 130 to 60 and with great feedback. Problem is at lower speeds they can be "grabby". Since these are "newer" pads, you don't want to use them in older bikes as their calipers aren't designed to withstand the amount of heat that they can produce. Each brand has it's own "recipe" for their pads so each will have it's own "feel". Something you will need to determine based upon your riding style. You need to make an investment in different brands to see which one works for you best. I am impressed by both DP and EBC - they are my favorites. I use organics for the street and sintered on track days. I also recommend performing a bedding in procedure and cleaning rotors between pad changes. A basic wiki or internet search should give you more information. | ||
| Delta_one |
yea what he said  | ||
| Fahren |
Tank queue berry mush. Me likee Wiki! | ||
| Teeps |
Jraice Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 Al_lighton... are you American Sport Bike Al or another Al? Al_lighton IS American Sport Bike Al... I've been to the store and met him face to face. Nice guy, he is very knowledgeable about the Buell brand. I use the Lyndall Gold pads (front) bought from American Sport Bike. They work just fine for my riding style, that I would describe as casual. | ||
| Jraice |
My riding style is far from casual but I am still confident they will atleast get the job done. I am not all about maximum braking into corners, but I do ride hard, then again its all relative! And while I have yet to meet him I have made 2-3 purchases from him and will be going (B-day trip) to his October Buell rally in the Sierras! |
