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Jraice
| Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 09:26 pm: |
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Whats the cheap way to do this? I have heard about using an ATV stand... I want to remove both wheels at the same time and currently only have a Pitbull rear stand. I know a shop that will remove them for me (new tires) for $50's (including mount and balance) but I thought maybe I'd do it myself, use the savings to buy some new front brake pads and install them mid process. Thoughts? |
Jraice
| Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 09:30 pm: |
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Also, my dad has one of those nice harley lifts that picks his bike up from the bottom just under the engine. What would I need to do to use this (and my rear stand if it needs more support) to remove both wheels? |
Schmitty
| Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 09:31 pm: |
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A couple ratchet straps around a rafter in the garage works pretty well. Schmitty |
Firebolt32
| Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 09:38 pm: |
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I'd go with Schmitty's idea. If the Harley jack is like the one a buddy of mine has, your exhaust is going to be in the way. I've gone Schmitty's route with no problem. |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 10:18 pm: |
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You are in CA, take a stroll to American Sport Bike and pick up a front pitbull |
Nik
| Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 11:28 pm: |
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What muffler do you have? To take off both wheels I use a rear stand in the back and the front muffler jack point on the stock muffler with a regular hydraulic car jack. |
Jraice
| Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:25 am: |
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Nik... Could you post a pic of what your talking about? What does it cost? How stable is it? Someone just offered locally to let me borrow a pitbull front stand if I buy the appropriate pin for the Buell, but if I can just buy something I can use every time, that'd be even better. Pics of it in use would be awesome but if you cant, a link to what your talking about maybe . My concern with using something like that is that you need it to be far forward enough on the muffler so the back doesnt lift, which would cause it to fall. No problems with the rear unweighting from the stand when you start taking wheels off? |
Nik
| Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:46 am: |
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I haven't experienced any problems with stability. The front jack point is ahead of the center of gravity. |
Jraice
| Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 01:00 am: |
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I think I am going to go that route. Any specifics on the type of jack you got (cost?) or what the lifting platform looks like? I am sure some are more compatable with the exhaust then others. |
Jraice
| Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 01:01 am: |
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Oh and have you removed both wheels with this setup and still not had stability issues? |
Nik
| Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 01:21 am: |
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Just a regular floor jack available pretty much anywhere for a wide variety of prices ($20 on up). Nothing special... You could probably use a scissor jack from a car's spare change kit too. It's a jackpoint, its made to be jacked up with a floorjack. You're making it way more complicated than it has to be. |
Jraice
| Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 01:31 am: |
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I tend to overcomplicate things... Sounds good, Ill pick one up from Kragen asap, get those wheels taken off and tires installed! |
Zatco81
| Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 08:30 am: |
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Once you get it jacked up throw the ratchet strap around the rafters as a "just in case" since you're obviously worried about it. |
Bearracing
| Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 06:27 pm: |
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What if you have no stands.. no rafters? then what do you do?.. without having to go buy stands? I wanna change out my lower triple and remove the front wheel as well.. |
Ochoa0042
| Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 06:50 pm: |
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i use the same method nik does /clipart{nod}.... dont jack it up too high (just enough for the front wheel to float) or you will dissrupt the center-o-balance and have problems |
Spdrxb
| Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 09:03 pm: |
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Concentrate and use " The Force" then no damage or stability problems. No really you can use the search and find the jacking template. I made one using 2/6's and some plywood works well with that floor jack also.Plenty stable, As others said the " last resort straps" on the rafters are a good idea. |
Jraice
| Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 12:56 am: |
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Thanks Ochoa Ill keep that in mind... Are you guys just putting the jack right on there bike or using some sort of towel or something to keep it from damaging the jacking point (have yet to look up where it is but I assume its the nice painted exhaust can, yeah its on the bottom but why damage it?)? Tuesday's the day, scheduled to have them changed then. Sounds like an easy job so for safety (dont want to leave it 3 days on the jack) Ill likely remove the wheels Tuesday, take them straight to the shop and reinstall, along with my new brake pads. |
1324
| Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 12:12 pm: |
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Make one of these if you have an ATV/transmission jack: http://badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142838/ 159410.html I connected mine with a piece of plywood and now it works great. I also use two ratchet straps to secure the bike to the jack just in case. Or, the front Pitbull stand works great. Love mine. |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 12:30 pm: |
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Frankly, there is really only one correct way to raise the bike to remove both wheels, or at least one proper hooligan method. Kindly note as follows. 1. Borrow ordinary rear wheel stand from neighbors kid. 2. Steal a couple of 3x4's from nearby construction site. Five to be exact. One needs to be about four feet long. 3. Jack up rear wheel with rear wheel stand. 4. Now place three of the 3x4's under the front jack point of the muffler,( it's marked on the underside). 5. Slooowly lever up the front of the muffler with the long 3x4, (shown on the ground in photo below), while girl friend places fourth and last 3x4 under the front of the muffler as shown in photographic illustration below. 6. Carefully lower bike so muffler settles on wood. Do not let bike fall on any girl friend who weighs less than 300 lb.s 7. Now both wheels are off the ground, and the bike is pretty steady. Not like on a pair of shiny new Pit Bulls, but the price was right. No? 8. The fastidious owner will return both the rear wheel stand and the wood. Sometimes not the wood. Any questions?
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Boltrider
| Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 01:44 pm: |
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My T-Rex stand doesn't give me enough room to remove the front wheel without first removing the caliper, which required disconnecting the brake line. So instead I used the floor jack method. Not too stable, but it worked. A spotter would have been nice because I almost dumped the bike. |
Ochoa0042
| Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 04:45 pm: |
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i've had trouble getting the brake disk away from the caliper.. (^refering to Gentleman_jon's photo^) my instinct was to rotate the wheel counter-clockwise to get it to clear the caliper, after trying and trying it didnt want to clear it.. but it slips right out if you rotate the wheel clockwise which seemed counterintuitive. hope this helps because Da Book left me guessing |
B00stzx3
| Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 04:52 pm: |
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+1 on jack and a peice of wood. When we did mine had a guy on either side holding the bike steady so it didn't drop to the floor. With the wood under there you won't damage anything. |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 05:52 pm: |
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If I remember correctly, one removes the fender mounting bolts on the caliper side, so that the caliper can be rotated away from the rotor. |