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Baybueller
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an XB9 with factory race kit. I would be happy to give up some top end for more torque. Any suggestions other than the obvious (get a 12)? thanks
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Martin
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In order of expense:
Fit a 12 airbox top or a Hillbilly FAST kit
Buy a PC111r for an X1 together with the uprated o2 sensor or a techlusion box and have everything set up on a dyno
Alter gearing(Though this has implications for the belt-guarding and may be a whole new can of worms)
Swap exhausts (I'm not going to suggest which type to the official DR*mm*r Fan Club)
Bore that sucker
You could ignore all of the above and fit a supercharger.
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Stoobr2
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or fit the "extra torque" pulley kit that trojan-horse do ?
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I really don't think this is the offical drummer fan club. there are more than a few here who like the D&D, Wileyco, Buell pipe, Latus,Jardine and the like. so suggest away.

altho I will admit its kinda nice to be hated because something works. Kinda like Booing and hissing the winning driver,or soccer team, or football team....I like being hated

but yes a pcIII will work also, as long as you can get it tuned correctly and the 12 airbox helps out also

edited by buckinfubba on March 19, 2004
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Sarodude
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"tuned incorrectly"



ahem... BTW, I got those shirts in. Thanks! Da Woman diggz herz too!

-Saro
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Austinrider
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My bike (03XB with an 04's belt) has plenty o torque. Havent dyno'd yet but hoping to here soon.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

saro
thats funny stuff.....maybe I was forshadowing the real outcome.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

there now its fixed
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Martin
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't hate you Bubba,
just an attempt at irony that got lost mid-Atlantic
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No iwasn't saying you or anybody in particular. just that there are rumblings.

mid-atlantic ain't got nothin on Irony
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Frankenstein
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bubba,

You might want to look at a set of torque cones (anti reversion cones). They install inside of the header pipe just outside the cylinder heads. Have bought a set for myself but have not had a chance to install them.

Hope this helps!

Oliver
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hell I wasn't looking for nuthin....now I am cornfused....am I
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Fullpower
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

F. stein sell the cones to some harley freak with straight pipes. they will not help you any.
they have been 'exhaustively' tested and found to be just what they appear: a piece of metal to clog up your exhaust pipes.
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Fullpower
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

there is one real good reason that you dont have a lot of "mid-range torque" that reason is the camshaft duration of 249degrees. the XB9 starts to pull around 4000 rpm. thats just the way it is. use transmission gears accordingly.
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Baybueller
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Im just used to riding big twins. guess I need to ride more like a riceburner. thanks all for the input.
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Gonen60
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the XBs are V twins!!!,and they are nothing like riding an inline 4...totally opposite power delivery
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you drop M2 cams into an XB?
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Skully
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Baybueller,

Check out dyno charts listed in the exhaust comparo threads. The D&D has the strongest mid-range.

Keith
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I sold my GS1100 to a pal of mine, I warned him, mother hen that I am, to be careful. I knew he had experience, he had a Norton Combat Commando, but the GS was a new thing to him.
A week later he called me, told me the GS had good power, but he didn't see what I was trying to warn him about. I asked him where he was shifting. "5000", I told him to try 8000, and hung up. A week later he called back, "Oh, I get it now."
Just rev it a bit more, shift a bit later, and take your advice from the riders above. The XB9 is a torque beast compared to inline 4's, but it works where it works, it's not a Road King. ( it's got a chunk more power! )
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Pilk
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bubba, do you have in mind to make one for an X-1?

or XB only thing?

Pilk
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Baybueller
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gonen60
the phrase big twin is used by Harley riders to describe non sportster based engines.With minor tweaking they produce over 90 lbs of torque at 3500 rpm. I believe the others on this thread understand what I am saying.
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Dblhaulxb9s
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did I hear something about Shirts. Bubba, are you making the Drummer Shirts. If so, I need one. Let me know.

Morgan
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

pilk
kevin can do for the tubers. thats how this goofy combo of me and him got started. but you'd have to really ask him.

no shirts morgan, my life has been side tracked here for a while with teds accindent, his recovery is the most important thing right now.
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