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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't have a bike stand or a jack that would be correct to lift the XB.

Here's my idea...

I could take two 2x4's and strap them to the bottom of the swingarm on each side running the same direction as the swingarm. I could then use two jacks to lift on the 2X4's. I would have a couple friends there to hold it so in the event I don't jack it evenly it won't fall over.

I looked in my garage for a beam large enough to "hang" the bike like I've seen done but none exists. I'll be careful when wrenching on it and I'll try not to kick the jacks. Anyone think it's a horribly bad idea?
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You could always ask to borrow my bike stands...but you would have to be here before tomorrow morning....

Take a pair of saw horses and use legs that let the center beam stand high enough above your bike to allow it to be lifted. Use on at the front and one over the rear. For stability add a cross piece on the outside of the legs so it looks like an A

edited by wyckedflesh on March 10, 2004
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Opto
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1, could you just buy a 2nd hand scissors car jack or one of those wind-up ones for $5 and use the jacking points?
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The jacking points are round... It would fall over... Unless I'm missing something...

Thank you for the offer Wycked, too late now though : ).
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Shazam
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you could use a ladder.... as I've done on occasion. just remember to secure the front to something....somehow...........

now start laughing.....

emergency lift
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That seems like a good idea... I would have run the strap all the way under so it lifts on the "lift points" but now that I look at it you seem to have a special exhaust : ).

Too bad I don't have a ladder...
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Fdl3
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, that's not a bad idea with the straps! In fact, some ratchet-style tie-down straps would be a good choice for straps (you may be using those in the pic, but I cannot tell).
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Fed
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Home Depot has a 8ft. carbon fiber ladder for race teams
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Shazam
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

here's the other side....

lift

I did use ratchet straps, but you have to be a little careful because when you un-ratchet them, they cut loose all at once. (keep that in mind when deciding how high you really want to raise it!)

I do have, (had), a special exhaust so no running under the bike for me, I just hooked to the tail section near the frame mounts....This was to tackle a failed O2 sensor problem.....
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Sarodude
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shazam-

What's funnier is that I've done the same freakin' thing...

-Saro
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And I'll be doing that this weekend (except I'll run the straps all the way under to the jack points).

Yeah, I dropped my Honda in the back of my truck very violently once due my lack of wisdom concerning those ratchet straps...
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Shazam
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

funnier yet.....

I used to (read: still do) on occasion, lean my X1 way over to the right, until the frame was sitting on the shortest jack-stand I own so that I could install a primary gasket without it falling off repeatedly or fluid leaking out onto the case surface immediately after I'd cleaned it.

I don't know how many times a neighbor has knocked on the door to tell me that one of the bikes in my garage had fallen over....hahaha

but, it works!
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL...

I've turned a Yamaha upside-down to drain the oil...
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Man, I feel all boring and suburban now...I just used a damned bike lift and jack like you're s'posed to!

I did make myself a nice board to secure the bike to while I have the front end off the ground, though. Keeps it from beinig tipsy while on a jack.

M1 - FYI, the rear stand I bought cost me less than $60 and works great for both my bikes (Blast and XB9R). The Pitbulls are nice but damned expensive.

Bryan
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Shazam
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you can't use that type of stand to disconnect the rear shock......

as perplexing as it was at the time, I was sufficiently proud of myself to justify taking the pics......not to mention nobody would've believed it otherwise...

now let's get back to turning a bike upside down to drain the oil????? intentional?
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Henrik
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you don't need to mess with the rear wheel or shock, then a rod through the rear axle and lifted onto to jack stands might work.

For shock work I've used jack stands under the rider footpeg mounts. Put a folded up rag between the peg mount and the stand. Start with the bike on the kickstand and put a jack stand under the right side peg. Then, having the other stand ready, stand the bike up and push it up onto the right jack stand while you at the same time put the left stand under the left rider peg mount. That's a fairly steady way to get the rear off the ground. Secure with supporting ratchet straps.

Henrik
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not bad Henrik, and I have two jack stands... I am having a little trouble coming up with a ladder. The problem is that I got a ticket a few weeks ago (86/65... I thought it was 75...) and so I have to pay for that. The officer was nice enough to write it up as civil instead of criminal and I can do traffic school to keep it off my record. Then... I got a ticket last weekend for crossing a double yellow (it was a 1.5 mile straight with a passing lane in the oncoming lane, there was nobody coming, I even checked for hidden holes by waiting long enough that no one came out of one, no one went into one, the truck in front of me was doing 40 etc...) Anyway... I have about $100 to last me until next Thursday so I can't really buy anything. I'll probably buy a nice jack that will work as soon as I replace my tires (which I wasn't planning to do for another month or so...).

Anyway, I like the jack stand idea given the fact that I can't procure a ladder...

Now, back to the oil... I think someone put lock-tite on the transmission drain plug and of course it's a frickin 1-1/8" bolt... It was already too stripped to get a socket or wrench onto it and we stripped it completely with a pipe wrench and a 4' pipe. We finally decided to turn it upside down mostly because we were tired of messing with the bolt. Next time we need to get in there we'll drill a new hole through the plug and tap threads for a new drain plug... We actually turned it upside down a few times to flush the sedimentary particles after dumping more oil in (cheap stuff).
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've used the rod through the axle trick. Works good. It is also handy for lifting the bike into and out of the back of a truck.
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

rod through the axle is used all winter long in the Entropy Lab . .. . I've only got one stand, and more than one scoot . . .. . iut also puts my jackstands to work, now that the only 4 wheeler I work on is the 31 Ford, and it sits high enough not to need lifting to get under it

The Great Dane's idea about running the rod through the passenger pag mounts also works well on tubers . . . .
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