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Ttags
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok, i understand our bikes are reasonably well built, with thick alminum.. very thick... what can be done to save weight? we weigh three hundred lbs more than the japs... oh, and i'm keeping my passenger stuff, i love dem bitches..
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buy Japanese.

Pretty simple.

Lovin dem bitches sounds like prison sex.
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Ttags
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

haha. good answer.. but too late. lol. i like my buell. she's just a little too thick...
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Augustus74
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One of the smaller aftermarket mufflers like the Jardine saves weight. Buell makes race wheels out of magnesium-not sure if they are street legal though. You COULD take off all the fairings. Basically we have a different animal though and must live with their flaws.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

we weigh three hundred lbs more...


Uh.....more than what? A 100cc trials bike maybe?

Funny thing is you look the bike over, to keep it street legal, most anything that can be tossed is light weight plastic or aluminum. Hell, run low on gas, 1.5 qts of oil, 3/4 of a quart of trans oil, bald tires, and worn out brake pads, they are lighter!
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Badbueller
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not sure what you are talking about Ttags? An xb9s weighs 390lbs and a cbr600rr weighs 410lbs
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dry Weight 395 lbs.
Gross Rating 850 lbs.
I got that from the Buell webpage. Does that mean there's 455lbs of liquid?
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Ghost_rider33
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I sure hope that you're being sarcastic. The gross weight is the bike fully loaded. Passengers and gear.
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gross weight is ALL fluids + big rider + big passenger.

I try to take a power dump before riding. I don't ride with a passenger so I'd recommend you tell your passenger to do the same. You can save 10 pounds right there.


(Message edited by slaughter on July 12, 2009)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It'll be cheaper and easier for YOU to shed some pounds than your bike.
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Dmhines
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dude ... you actually thought an XB weighs 850 lbs???? You are kidding ... right?
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Me on the bike is like 600lbs
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By the way, when I referred to a "power dump" I wasn't referring to heavy throttle and clutch usage from a standing start.
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Ttags
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok, so three hundred, little high, but really nobody is modifying bracketry, removing unecessary BS, or swiss cheesing parts? and i im 5 11, weigh 150 even, no room to lose lbs there... haha and yeah, im one for an asthetically pleasing bike also, so farings and the cool shit stays... : ) just took a power dump, my damn scale says i still weigh 150!!! wtf! : )
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dang. You're not BIG enough to lose a whole lotta weight without amputating legs or something.

seriously though, a slip-on exhaust can is probably one of the better ways to drop some pounds... but it's down low to begin with so doesn't really affect your handling all that much.

You could buy a Speedcell battery - save you about 5 pounds over the stocker... but costs about $250

Almost anything to remove weight is gonna cost some coin! (and won't really work on a streetbike with a passenger)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I weighed 150lbs once.



In 8th grade.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whats the point?
not like its gonna transform the bike into a ninja killer ride it till it breaks n enjoy it while its not broke.
I dunno where u got we weigh 300 pounds MORE than jap bikes but we are actually lighter than most of em.

(Message edited by buelltroll on July 12, 2009)
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I gotta bit of a gut and I'm feeling kinda guilty here.

You guys gotta lay off or my ego's gonna take a hit.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok, so three hundred, little high,


What planet do you live on? The GSX R600 weighs 433. Speed triple is 430 something. Iam not going to go look up every sport bike because the only bikes remotely lighter than the XB's are dirtbikes and mopeds.

Seriously WTF?}
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Jakecheez
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hahahahahahahaha!

Magnesium wheels and a carbon slip-on will get you pretty light.

As for "cheese grating" parts? Who the hell wants to forgo structual integrity so u can loose .024lbs?

My tip, cheese grate your frame. That's the biggest piece of metal on the bike...............
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wow i just seen this.. 300lbs more??
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Brandon_m
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is it really that hard to answer somebody's question without being an ignorant ass?

Based on what you mentioned before about keeping the cosmetics of the machine intact, there isn't much you can remove or alter in order to shed weight. Carbon parts and a lightweight exhaust will be the greatest. However, those wouldn't be significant gains in weight reduction.
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Boltrider
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The wet weight for a stock XB is around 460-470 lbs.

I'm not sure of the wet weight for the Uly, but I believe all the other XB's fall into that range.

(Message edited by boltrider on July 12, 2009)
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ditch the charging system and use speedcell quick swap batteries

Remove all bodywork, front fairing mountslights, gauges, kickstand, non mission critical stuff

Shopping cart wheels

Replace motor with a Blast single

Swiss cheese the frame and use a water bottle as fuel cell.
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Roysbuell
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gross rating is what the vehicle, all fluids, passengers and cargo weigh. Texas DOT was very clear on that when they pulled my truck over. I think this guy thought that Gross is what the bike weighs.
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Jakecheez
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"is it really that hard to answer somebody's question without being an ignorant ass?"

Brandon_m=

You are an idiot-

A. In what part of my answer to his question was I being ignorant? (I understand the ass part, because I was joking with him about HIS ignorance)

B. Your response had the same info as mine, only by the time you said it, it was redundant, which makes you an ignorant.

C. For being an ignorant idiot, u should be riding a Harley not a Buell.
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Ttags
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dealer told me it weighed close to 600. i just assumed that was dry... thanks for the umm, unconventional, responses ... those of you whom actually answered seriously, thank you... its so much easier when we get simple to the point answers. weight sucks.. lose weight go faster.. simple...more reliable(as compared to engine mods)... and a lot easier than changing pistons and cam... i've lost the stock muffler, removed the muff actuator and cable, i've seen rear sections modified to reduce weight, thought about swiss cheesing the headlight/dash bracket(very thick with lots of supports)... questoned modifying the upper 'triple tree'?? the part that attaches handlebars to neck, there are three spots that appear to be perfect to cut out..... the engineers at buell look to save money.period. if machining a part is too expensive, they will leave excess material there... i wanna take the steps that they didnt... and i'm sorry i didn't do all the research before hand. one correction instead of twelve would have sufficed... for the most part you guys are a huge help... and i do REALLY appreciate it!!!: )
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Buelltroll
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Unless your racing FOR MONEY your wasting yours.
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M1combat
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not worth swiss cheesing the headligh/dash bracket... It's made of magnesium.



Go with CF body work, lighter subframe, magnesium wheels, lighter battery, remove the starter, remove the headlights and mirrors and blinkers, inner airbox cover, passenger pegs (and maybe mill off the mounting bosses), aftermarket can, composite front pulley, titanium springs, all titanium bolt set, ceramic bearings...


Maybe there's more but we're probably up to at least $10-15K so far...


You can't make them "much" lighter and they're already in the ballpark for sure.


Just ride the thing : ).
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M1combat
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"dealer told me it weighed close to 600."

They lied to you : ). Which one told you that? Which salesman?
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