| Author | Message | ||
     Patches |
I have a Dumb Question that has bin bothering me for some time. I went to the loco dealership to check out the new bikes and noticed the new Buells no longer have "American Motorcycles" on the "Tank" and the Buell website shows the same. Is Buell disassociating themselves from being Made in America? Are they going to move all to the Rotax Engine (no more H-D)? I apologize if I offend anybody please forgive me. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Old question. Nothing nefarious. Buell sells bikes in countries other than the US. You don't see: Honda: Japanese Motorcycles KTM: Austrian Motorcycles BMW: German Motorcycles Hyosung: Korean Motorcycles | ||
| Patches |
Like I said, I apologize if I offend anybody please forgive me. I'm Proud to be an American. I really love my Buell P3 Blast and the one I had Before (m2 Cyclone) only believe in owning American Made Motorcycles (personal choice only). Everybody has the right to choose what they ride and "I Do Not Discredit Other Makes and or Brands" or there Owners. I was just wondering why the change. Everybody is "FTW" that is what makes the United States of America so Great. | ||
| Union_man |
I like the "American Motorcycle" badge!!! I went out and found an airbox cover (used) and bought it just because of the American Motorcycle stickers. I also put it on my # plate!  Proud to BE and RIDE American!!!   | ||
| Patches |
I ride my Buell around central Ky. and it usually gets a lot of stares, questions, and comments(mostly good). Most People don't know what a Buell is and when you tell them it is an American Sport Bike- division of Harley Davidson it really blows there minds. (Message edited by patches on July 12, 2009) | ||
| Djz |
I am wondering is it really made in USA we know rims china forks and shock japan i do not know what is made in USA ..what part of that bike is made in USA not assembled made..anyone know ..I am really not a Harley fan but one of best part of XB12 is the motor. I think the motor is what give that bike all the personality i hear you all talk about ..I am happy with the bike wish they put a six speed in it .. it could be like the BMW and go on for a long time with old dated motor that really works well..i wish they clean up the trouble spots wiring and ele problem | ||
| Ustorque |
you can still get the O.E.M. American Motorcycle badges from your dealer. Theres no big conspiracy behind it. | ||
| Patches |
"I am wondering is it really made in USA we know rims china forks and shock japan" When you Buy the Bike New the Money stays in the U.S.A., helps the American Economy. "Made In U.S.A." that my opinion anyway. Maybe they need to source parts here in the states and Bring Back American Jobs! So we can afford the bikes. I'm Proud to be an American and Would Not Ride Anything Else, Dare to be Different- "Loud & Obnoxious" Loud Pipes Screw Society. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
These threads do become tiresome. Must we have them? Are we as specific as to the parts content of our Canadian made Fords? It's an American designed bike assembled by Americans with parts sourced from all over the world. Let's leave it at that. If you want the sticker that says "American Motorcycles" they sell them. | ||
| Whitexc |
"Let's leave it at that. If you want the sticker that says "American Motorcycles" they sell them." Amen...as a union worker I am all about American stuff but there comes a point where it just takes too much to be that way. Check your socks, undies, fridge, bowls, lightbulbs, coolers, etc. and see where they were made/assembled and it is the way of the world today. You ride a sweet bike...if you are one of us that is, and don't have to advertise it if you ask me. Just my .02 of course. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
If the measure of "American Made" is 100% parts content, why the double standard with other "American" products. | ||
| Jaimec |
I've always wondered why a Honda Accord, manufactured in Ohio, out of 90% American-manufactured parts, by American laborers was an import, but a Chrysler manufactured and assembled in Mexico by Mexican laborers was a domestic. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Zactly! Do you know the car manufactured with the largest American parts and labor content? Isuzu. | ||
| Patches |
When I went to the loco dealership seen the new Buells no longer had "American Motorcycles" on the "Tank" and the Buell website showed the same. I thought it was just a big let down seeing how being American and "Made In U.S.A." is such a bad thing these days. I just didn't want to see America loose another part of itself to "Foreign Made" Corporate Profits. I apologize if I offend anybody please forgive me. Long Live B.A.M.! (Buell American Motorcycles) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
They still say "Made in the U.S.A." on the frame. It's just not necessary to advertise it's country of origin any longer. | ||
| Patches |
"It's just not necessary to advertise it's country of origin any longer." Jobs lost in the U.S.A. Maybe that is the problem. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Erik Buell was asked about this at the 25th Anniversary dinner and he said they put "American Motorcycles" on the tank and later on the XB air box because Buell was a small unknown company. As the company has grown, they no longer feel the need to advertise that fact. As I recall, I was left with the impression someone at HQ felt it a tad boastful, cocky or alienating to continue with that branding. | ||
| Slaughter |
I'm actually GLAD that their overseas sales actually top their domestic sales... even if the airbox cover doesn't say "American Motorcycles" Many people are still surprised to find that Levis have NOT been american made or sourced for a long time now. It isn't hard to buy domestic - but it's hard to spend what it takes. If the cost of domestic cotton denim pants (about $120-$150) is representative of the cost increase in motorcycles should they be totally US-sourced, I wonder how many of us would be willing to pay $30K or more for the bikes that we struggle to put out $10-$11K to own. If I made a quarter million a year, it'd be different I suppose - I could have the "luxury" of buying only domestic products. As it stands, for most of us, the ONLY domestic products we buy are those we eat - and typically THOSE are produced by companies who have outsourced-in-place with foreign labor. Go figure Wish it weren't so - but as Dad used to say: "Wish in one hand, shit in the other, tell me which one fills up first." | ||
| Slaughter |
Heck, my 1978 F150 had a "foreign" engine - 351 Windsor. My 1972 Pinto had a "foreign" engine - Brazil. | ||
| Patches |
"I was left with the impression someone at HQ felt it a tad boastful, cocky or alienating to continue with that branding." Kinda like Harley Davidson changing from the Outlaw Motorcycle Gang Image Of the 60's and 70's to R.U.B.s with Doo Rags and Fake Tattoos. I don't think it would be wise to turn your back on Heritage (just my opinion). Is that why they stopped promoting or no longer have B.R.A.G. (Buell Riders Adventure Group). | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Yeah, there's nothing like having bar fights at the dealership with all those "authentic" bikers from the 60's and 70's. I can honestly say that I have never seen or met a "real biker" on the sales floor at the dealership. This is not a bad thing. I'm pretty sure that having criminals being spokesmen for your brand isn't really the "Heritage" that any company would want. You don't see Toyota capitalizing on it's heritage:  "Toyota: Official vehicle of jihad!" | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
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| Patches |
Ft_bstrd Now that's Funny, Very FUNNY! Thanks Man I do Appreciate that, Made my Day.  Buells RULE | ||
| Slaughter |
Now see, REAL Christian Jihadists would be in a F150 with Winchester model 94s or maybe Remington 870 scatterguns. Couple AR-15s thrown in for them rich boys. Though the M-16 is a Belgian gun now (FN manufacturing US in Columbia, South Carolina... and the M94 Winchester is likely Japanese unless you're careful about the date) Yep, that's the ticket. | ||
| Spdrxb |
Just remember what happend to Budweiser. They sold out for the almeighty dollar. And during those tours I went on they were so proud of thier heritage, and being "An American" lager etc etc... Sorry to keep debate going just had to add that (Message edited by spdrxb on July 12, 2009) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
A company can be for sale. Sometimes the buyers aren't "American". Sometimes the buying goes the other way. | ||
| Patches |
"Just remember what happened to Budweiser. They sold out for the almighty dollar. And during those tours I went on they were so proud of their heritage, and being "An American" lager etc etc..."- This is why I asked the question Is Buell disassociating themselves from being Made in America?; "they put "American Motorcycles" on the tank and later on the XB air box because Buell was a small unknown company. As the company has grown, they no longer feel the need to advertise that fact."- If it was not for us would they still be a "small unknown company"? When you go in to the H-D dealership they do not want to be associated with Buell (they only want to work on new H-D products). Now it seems Buell does not want to be associated with Made in America or those that helped them become known in the Motorcycle World. I apologize if I offend anybody. (sorry I asked the question) God please forgive me. (Message edited by patches on July 12, 2009) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Is Budweiser still made in the US? If so, it's still an American Beer. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Would we consider MV Augusta an "American" motorcycle company? | ||
| Spdrxb |
Made in America yes. But American owned company no. That in itself is sad to me. We could all go on with this forever. This is endless your right Ft_bstrd. Enjoy yourselves I'M out. (Message edited by spdrxb on July 12, 2009) |
