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Easyflier
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 07:31 pm: | 
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Impulse, you one of those knuckleheads that jump out of perfectly good airplanes? |
Honu
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 07:53 pm: |
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A couple of questions. What is a wife beater shirt and what are zoris?
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Blackhat
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 07:56 pm: |
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Impulse,
The 507th is alive and kicking. I don't think anything will ever stop this train.
I know my bedroom, the road to work, and the school....... that's all I know..... I have no life.
Don't let Easyflier fool you, he was doing it when they were using pterodactyls and bare feet.
"Feet and Knees together"
Blackhat |
Easyflier
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 08:18 pm: |
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Hey, pterodactyls were pretty stealthy in their day. 
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Xb9er
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 09:14 pm: |
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Example of a wifebeater shirt (so named because of the ubiquitous dirtbags (not girls like in the pic) wearing them when a domestic disturbance call is made by the cops on a show like, well Cops!.
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Xb9er
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 09:17 pm: |
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Zoris-
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Impulse_101
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 10:13 pm: |
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Birdshit, fools and me...
Besides, the only perfectly good airplane is on the ground and the aircraft is only as good as the pilot. So I was a lot happier to take matters into own hands than to leave it to the morons who couldn't even find the dropzone half the time.
Blackhat, train them well and make sure that if you give bloodwings to any cherry infantrymen headed to Alaska you tell them to take care of my unit. (and make sure that you can pin their backings onto their spine.)
JT |
Nevco1
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:53 pm: |
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All the way!!! |
Seanp
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 12:25 am: |
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Air Assault!
(Ok, and Airborne too, but I love to get a rise out of those damn paratroopers. When in 98 did you go through, Impulse? I went through in July of 98. The only reason I went through jump school was so I could talk smack about jumping out of airplanes. I don't care to ever do it again. I would rather fly myself, thank you very much...)
But anyway, back to topic, sort of - you guys that are in the military, (which it seems are quite a few) what do you wear when you're just riding to work? I wear BDU's to work and it's only a 7 mile trip. When I get home from my extended vacation, I'm going to want to ride to work. However, how well do these overpants, jackets, etc., fit over BDU's and combat boots? I wear leg boots most of the time, jungle boots sometimes.
I was looking at an Aerostitch, maybe for Christmas next year. Would it fit over a set of BDU's? And are combat boots, (like I said, mostly leg boots, [all-leather boots for you non-military folks]) as protective as actual riding boots?
Thanks in advance. |
Nevco1
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 01:57 am: |
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No sweat with the Aerostich with the BDU's or the Boots. The closest you are going to come to a failure is melting your starch in summer if they still require a full military press. LOL |
Ld50
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 02:03 am: |
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1/507th Delta The Rock! Keep shinin yer bullwinkle badge. I'm no longer in, but I use the joe rocket stuff. It's fairly inexpensive, fits over regular clothes/boots for the commute, don't see why BDU's/boots would be any different. As far as the boot ? probably better than flipflops not as good as sidi's. |
Charlieboy6649
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 02:13 am: |
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The group I ride with always suits up. Call it showing off or wanna be mentality if you like... The way I see it, anything you can do to better your chances in a crash is worth it.
Arizona has no helmet law, but in our group, riding without one is just plain crazy!
Now that I've thrown my 2 cents into this thread, let me remark on the other earlier comments about ratios. I'd say among the sportbike guys here we're pretty near 100% helmet use. And among the cruisers, almost non-existent...
Not saying that's the way it should be, just my observation,
Charles |
Ara
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 08:30 am: |
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Blackhat:
You might be interested to know that a reflective vest is not specifically required by DoD regulation on your military post. Here is a list of DODI requirements for motorcyclist on DOD facilities per DODI 6055.4 DOD Traffic Safety Program Enclosure 3. E3.2.6. Motorcycles, except Government-owned off-road motorcycles on tactical missions or training, shall be equipped with rear view mirrors mounted on the handlebar or fairing. E3.2.7. Requirements for Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) are as follows: E3.2.7.1. The following PPE is mandatory for all persons as listed in paragraph 2.2. of the Instruction while operating or riding as a passenger on a motorcycle or ATV. E3.2.7.1.1. Helmets. Certified to meet Department of Transportation (DOT) standards properly fastened under the chin. If stationed outside CONUS and the host nation does not have an equivalent helmet standard, the helmet will meet the U.S. Department of Transportation standard. E3.2.7.1.2. Goggles and Face Shields. Impact or shatter resistant goggles or full-face shield properly attached to helmet. A windshield or eye glasses alone are not proper eye protection. E3.2.7.1.3. Sturdy Footwear is mandatory. Leather boots or over the ankle shoes are strongly encouraged E3.2.7.1.4. Clothing. Long sleeved shirt or jacket, long trousers, and full-fingered gloves or mittens designed for use on a motorcycle. E3.2.7.1.5. Garment Visibility. A brightly colored outer upper garment during the day and a reflective upper garment during the night. Outer upper garment shall be clearly visible and not covered. Your installation Commander or Provost Marshal is taking liberties in his interpretation of the regulations. A brighly colored jacket with some 3M reflective material sewn into it is fully compliant.
Russ at Redstone Arsenal, Alabama
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Impulse_101
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 12:58 pm: |
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Oh shit, I did type 98... I meant 1989! Actually I graduated on January 14th of 89. We still had to do pull ups to get into the chow hall and all that good stuff back then.
I miss being that young and stupid... (I turned 18 in basic!)
JT |
Impulse_101
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 12:59 pm: |
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As for clothing, I'm ordering a Joe Rocket Alter Ego jacket before too long. It's a very cool system that really is a three season jacket plus armor. I want something between me and the pavement if I go down.
Gloves are optional depending on the day, but I always wear a helmet. My perscription glasses are useless for wind protection and so I can't even see without a full face.
Besides, I've no intention of becoming an organ donor anytime soon, so I'll take the best protection I can get.
JT
(Pardon the edit)
edited by impulse_101 on March 09, 2004 |
Azfirebolt
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 02:52 pm: |
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I'm a T-Shirt and Jeans kinda guy. Unless it's cold. Helmet ang gloves on the Buell, Nothing on the H-D's. Don't know why... |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 03:16 pm: |
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Ara,
You are correct. Try explaining that to the MP though. |
Ara
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 03:42 pm: |
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Hootowl: You're right, of course. The grunt at the gate is just following orders, and I appreciate that. I'm going to chance a letter to the Arsenal newspaper asking that the new local policy be published. They haven't done that, they just implemented new rules and we found out about them at the gate in the morning. Funny way to run a bureaucracy.
Russ |
Wyckedflesh
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 04:41 pm: |
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I know all the guys around the Dover AFB were required to wear the bright vests at all times, whether on base or off and you could get in trouble if spotted off base without and serious trouble if you got in an accident offbase without the vests. |
Honu
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 09:02 pm: |
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XB9er Thanks for answering the questions-learn something everyday.
As for gear I just got a leather one piece suit last week, wore it Sat & Sun with temps around 75-80, felt great while riding, warm when stopped. We will see how it feels in August! The rest of the gear, full face, gloves, and sidi V2'S.  |
Charlieboy6649
| | Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 07:38 pm: |
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Hootowl and Ara,
Just because the DOD states one thing, a local commander reserves the right to make the regulations more stringent...
Example: Marine Corps order echoes the DOD instruction. However, the station safety order here at MCAS Yuma specifically states that a reflective vest will be worn made from high-viz yellow or orange.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, just throwing out the possibility that your post CO might have tightened the regs a little...
Charlieboy |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 09:26 am: |
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That's true, however, EVERY base I was ever on required them. I think they must have been required at one time and when the regs were rewritten, no one noticed. You get that a lot in the military. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 09:45 am: |
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When I bought my Cyclone from a guy at Fort Knox, he made me put on a vest just to test drive it in a circle around the (on base) parking lot. So they must have taken it pretty seriously there as well.
And he stored the bike *inside* his on base apartment, so it's not like he was not above pushing regs. |
Charlieboy6649
| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 12:26 pm: |
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LOL at bike inside apartment! Yea we bend the regs whenever someone isn't looking! |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 07:18 pm: |
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in alaska we wear LOTS of riding gear. takes longer to get dressed than it does to drive across town. |
Kaese
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 01:39 am: |
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Glad I'm not in the military any longer (and loving every minute)! |
Blackhat
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 03:13 am: |
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Been out of the loop for awhile,
Can't say I have read the reg myself.
Point of fact, try getting onto a military base without the vest, full coverage, etc, and you'll be turned around. What Charlieboy said is absolutely correct, you can improve or increase the standard, but you can never take away from that standard. The local commander reserves the right and authority to adjust it as he sees fit within that standard.
Personally, I have never been to any installation, of any service, that didn't require the entire kit.
To top it off, these posts, (all of them), require completion of the motorcycle safety course in order to obtain the post access sticker for the vehicle, however, on some posts, a sticker is not required for access, just the military ID, as is here at Benning. One problem with that is, no sticker increases the likelihood that you will be the one they pull to the side to search inside and out. Not too much of a problem with a motorcycle, but pure ass-pain with a fully packed car or truck.
I've been at this for awhile.
Blackhat |
Al_lighton
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 09:32 am: |
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We carry Draggin jeans at American Sport Bike. I never owned a pair until buying the shop, then got to check them out. They fit like jeans are supposed to, and are wearable to places that you would just look funny walking around in leather pants. I'll still wear my leather pants on most sport rides, but for driving around town and other putts, I'll be wearing Draggins.
Highly recommended, I should have bought some a LONG time ago.
Al |
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