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Expatriate
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have used Lucas Oil's Gas treatment and top end lubricant in my 2004 LS1 GTO makes her purrrr like a kitten and run smoother. I was wondering anyone has used it in their XB and the results from said experience. Also wondering about the mixing ratio used as a whole bottle would make us run WAAAAAYY to rich.
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Acityxj
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thought about the same thing. I was going to do this next week. I was just going to use 1/4 of a quart for starters. Will be mixing it with 20/50 amsoil. let me know how it works for u if you do it before I do.
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1_mike
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use it at every oil change and also occasionally on hotter days (So. Cal.) in my XB and 1125.

Used it for years in both my cars and bikes. Well, I started using the Redline F.I. cleaner. It also worked well.
But I can't find Redline any more...so I found what I think is a better replacement.

The Lucas also uses an oil to help lube things without leaving deposits.
My R1 (Yamaha) has just over 98,000 miles and the back side of the intake valves are clean and shinny.

Ummm...you don't mix it the gas treatment on oil, it goes in the gas tank.
Their oil treatment goes in the oil tank (pan).
I use that in one of my cars. Never tried it in any bikes.

Mike

P.S. - mix it like the instrutions state. The writers do make the product, they would know the best mexture!
Does it have to be exact...no.

(Message edited by 1_mike on July 02, 2009)
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Redbuelljunkie
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will be mixing it with 20/50 amsoil.

Not recommended. What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Even Amsoil says not to mix their own additives with their oil- the additives are already in the oil. It would kinda be like mixing two multi vitamins together- you get no benefit, and possibly end up getting an overdose of some vitamins.

Additionally, I have never owned a vehicle that recommended the use of any type of fuel/oil/engine treatment. I've never used them, and I have never had any failures- proper maintenance, good fuel, and superior oil has worked like a charm for me. The only reason I can see for using an oil additive is if it were added to a sub-standard oil that did not contain the necessary additives- like a conventional mineral oil.


And one other thing... Amsoil is 100% synthetic oil- there's a good chance that your "additive" contains petroleum distillates. Why on earth would you want to dilute your synthetic oil with mineral oil- it makes absolutely no sense. Your Amsoil is superior to everything out there straight out of the bottle- any additive only decreases it's performance and lightens your wallet.

(Message edited by redbuelljunkie on July 02, 2009)
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1_mike
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Red -

""additive" contains petroleum distillates.""

And just where do you think synthetics start out life...?

Beside...the original question was about "gas treatment", or more properly, F.I. cleaner.

And I've seen no current "factory" additive from the gasoline dealers that work as well (including the new Shell additive) as many of the over the counter brands.
NOT all....mind you...

That's why I experimented with and currently use the Lucas. It does what it was designed to do, and in my opinion...does it well.

Mike
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Redbuelljunkie
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Amsoil synthetic lubricants are chemically synthesized in the laboratory using molecular construction to create long strands of fully saturated hydrogenated molecules called polyalphaolefin (PAO). These chemically engineered Group IV PAO's base stocks are then combined with Group V synthetic esters and polyolesters to make Amsoil 100% synthetic lubricants. There is no petroleum (mineral oil) in Amsoil synthetic oils.

My comment about the oil additive was directed at oil additives- not gas treatment.

My comment about fuel/oil/engine treatments was directed at all "treatments" which claim to do things that the vehicle manufacturers say are not necessary. From my personal experience (25 motorcycles and 45 autos) of never having used a single "treatment" and never having the need to use one (matches what the manufacturers say), I was simply voicing my opinion that they are not necessary.
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Zatco81
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I may be wrong but I don't think Acityxj was saying he was going to mix the two, I think he meant he was using them both...in their respective holes.
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Sloppy
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is NOTHING wrong with additives from a name brand and following their instructions.

But I don't think ANYONE has been able to independently confirm that they work as well as they are advertised.

Snake oil: if it makes you sleep better then use it...
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Acityxj
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I guess my wording made it sound all wrong. sorry fellas sometimes I type way ahead of myself. Yes I know gas treatment goes with fuel. and oil is another beast in itself. I currently use just amsoil 20/50 by itself(engine). To Clarify I wanted to try both products lucas fuel additive in gas tank along with 20/50 amsoil in motor to see if I get a smoother running bike in this hot texas heat. should have said 1/4 bottle of fuel additive along with 20/50 amsoil for motor.
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Acityxj
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh I forgot to mention lucas now has a pure synthetic stabilizer oil. Which is supposed to keep the syn oil on it's metal parts without draining off after sitting stationary for too long. Hence the claim never having a dry start again. sounds like it would be worth a shot to try. Has anybody tried this syn stabilizer?
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Macdiver
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just some words of caution

it is NOS fuel injector cleaner in the bikes fuel tank and NOS energy drink in your fuel tank. Don't mix the two up.
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Fast1075
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing wrong with using fuel system cleaner...I used the Lucas stuff in a work truck that had been sitting for a long time..it ran like crap, but cleared up after one tank full with the Lucas cleaner.

I run the oil stabilizer in one of my Jeeps that has a very high rpm capable motor...I had trouble wearing out rocker pivots before I added the stabilizer..it may have something to do with better lube on dry starts (it sits for a lenght of time between uses).

I would stress to be careful what you add to the primary..anything with sulphur compounds will kill your stator...and some synthetics will make the clutch slip.
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