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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

... I would like for people to post here that have had their muffler replaced under warranty. Then I can refer my dealer and buell/harley customer service people to this thread and ask them why the infamous rusty muffler issue isn't covered under warranty for ME while it IS covered for others. Even my headers are rusting which began at 5 months. The bike is just over 1 year old now.

While I realize this might be a touchy issue for some of you, please consider the others that have the same problem but aren't getting the same support.

Thanks for your help.
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Andrewxb12ss
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 05:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have had mine replaced under warranty.
it will be replaced again as well before the warranty runs out. it is about 8 months old
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's less hassle to simply repaint it yourself. I agree though. The muffler should be stainless steel or much better protected against corrosion. Polish the headers and htfu.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can get a low grade stainless which is great for long term durability. GM used it on their trucks exhaust. I dont know the cost offset though.
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Pogue_mahone
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

consider getting a used can and getting it coated,or get your existing one coated.end of problem.
i know it is BS getting a muffler with what is quality wise, lacquer spray can on a 350 dollar muffler.for that cost it should be better finished.

scott
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Jlnance
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spacecapsule1 - I continue to be amazed by the variance of warranty policies between dealers. One would think that it would be the same everywhere, and it most certainly is not.

Note that your warranty is valid at ANY Buell dealer. My dealer has always treated me well, particularly with regard to warranty work. I suspect they would treat you well too. You're only 140 miles from here. Assuming they would warranty your muffler, you could probably arrange to have it done while you wait. Depending on when it was, I may be able to pick you up for lunch.

If you're interested in talking with them, I'll PM you the name of a contact person at the dealership (Ray Price HD.)
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Half_buell
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My ULY's was replaced under warranty about 4 month's ago. My 08 9sx is rusty in spots.
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Rsh
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why bother, unless the muffler has rusted completely through or the rust has caused soft/thin spots and has mechanically degraded the muffler body. Just repaint as needed to keep the aesthetics to your liking. Replacing the muffler is no guarantee that it will not rust again. In six months you will have the same issue.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine was last month under warranty at Keggel's HDBuell. I'm going to take it back off before winter and BBQ grill paint it about 12 coats. Now htfu.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>In six months you will have the same issue.

I'm going the HTFU route but don't like it. I have just a tad over 2,000 miles and the exhaust is 50% covered in rust, the pipes are likely 20%. I'll clean it up next winter and it won't bother the performance but it sure looks nasty.

I'll be changing out a bunch of rusted hardware as well.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>The muffler should be stainless steel or much better protected against corrosion.

I agree.

Any tips on what kind of coating or paint you'd use?

I wouldn't mind buying a stainless but I don't want a loud exhaust . . too risky in NYC.
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A polished set of pitted headers is not a pretty sight, nor is a nicely coated pitted muffler.

Once coated, the pits show up in amazing detail and clarity.
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2_spuds
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had my 06 replaced under warranty and the new one rusted in no time.
I used barbecue spray paint on it but that wasn't lasting very long either. I now use rustoleum barbecue ultra applied with a good quality brush, 2 coats, and it's been holding up well.
A wire brush on a drill will get all of the rust off before painting.
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Rsh
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe you can ask Kevin (KD Fab) what paint and prep he uses on the standard version Drummer, he does repaint them after they are modified, I have not heard of to many issue's with rust on the standard Drummer. As with any paint job, prep is the key, then a descent quality paint that is appropriate for the application.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If ya find out . . . let us know.

I'll likely paint mine next winter . . . till then . . .well, it's a muffler and out of sight . . . out of mind.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A few people have had their mufflers coated by Jet Hot, the same guys that do the ceramic header coatings. IIRC, someone had good results with conventional powder coating. Evidently the muffler doesn't get too hot for powder coating to handle.

Another alternative would be hot dip galvanizing. That's fairly inexpensive, it's a common industrial coating, and most auto mufflers are galvanized. It probably wouldn't look bad either.
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trojan sells some nice aftermarket exhausts that meet the stringent Euro noise laws. Technically they're not legal here (since they are not EPA certified), but they are quiet enough to not draw any attention AND they are stainless to boot.

The only drawback is going to be the price.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the muffler replaced under warranty on my wife's '06 CityX.

When the mufflers on both mine, and wife's STTs started to rust, I took 'em off and painted them with Valspar BBQ paint.

Once coated, the pits show up in amazing detail and clarity

You need to bead blast the muffler to get ride of ALL the corrosion. Just wire brush and such ain't gonna cut it when it comes to getting rid of the corrosion.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't remember what it's called, but there is a chemical sold by the makers of Navel Jelly that chemically reacts with rust and forms a black polymer that can be sanded and acts like a primer coat. I've used it before with good results but for the life of me I can't remember what it's called!

After removing as much rust as possible with wire brush and sanding, I applied a coat of this stuff and allowed it to cure. Sanded it down and then painted with Rustoleum High Temperature black. The finish held up far better than the original factory finish up till the day I sold the bike.
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Mmcn49
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Loctite-75430 Extend Rust Treatment.

It works great, but I didn’t know it had a high temperature rating.
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

any one else?
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get it ceramic coated and forget about it.
Paint is temporary...nothing sucks worse than a rusty exhaust on a bike...I put a Jardine system on the Blast...the pipe has aged to a nice purplish-gold color...
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

is it possible to put on the muffler wrong? the other week I had to remove the muffler to get to the bottom of the swingarm to retapp the threads.. and put the muffler back on, just fine. few days past by and I had forgot to put back on the chin fairing, i didnt really forget but was too lazy to put it back in at the time.. well I put the chin fairing on not too long ago and had a real hard time trying to put the sucker back on. so my guess is that I put on the muffler a tad bit off cambered, so that slight misalignment gave me trouble with ataching the chin fairing. do you think that might be the problem with why the chin fairing was had to put back on?
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