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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...and Id like some thoughts on getting the sound I want. My 05 XB12 came with a jardine but Id like a deeper tone and I think the factory muffler is perfect for this. I envision a muffler with internal qualities like a flowmaster with angled walls that would give me this deeper tone.

I could be way wrong though. Iam basing all of this off of trying and hearing different mufflers on 5 liter mustangs.

Ive looked at some of the other guys mods on their muffler but wanted to try something a little different. Im still not sure how Iam going to make 45 degree chambers in an oval/oblong muffler. I want to finish by this weekend though.
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Mnbueller
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why not just buy a flowmaster and modify it work on the bike....just like the Latus exhaust was just an edelbrock muffler modified to fit the bike....

But you are not way wrong, the sound wouldn't be the same as a 5.0 mustang, but you could get similare, after all you only have 1/4 of a 5.0L engine in your bike.

And it wouldn't be hard.I would just cut the exit end of the muffler off, then You'll just have to make the 45deg peices taller than the muffler and then grind them to fit. Then slide into place and tach weld them in. Just start with a deffinate layout of the baffles so you can work backwards. Good luck, and be sure to capture a short, vid, sound clip when its finished!
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Zatco81
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I did mine I cut off the rear section at the factory weld. At this point you can use the muffler as a template to trace and cut pieces to get the oval shape. Then I cut the bottom off so as not to disturb the chin fairing brackets. Plasma cutter makes all this really easy if you have access to one. Good luck, looking forward to video.

*I also cut the inlet pipe immediately after it enters the muffler and removed the front baffle.

(Message edited by zatco81 on June 16, 2009)
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Kowpow225
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zat,
I must say yours is one of the finest sounding modified stockers I've heard.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got this muffler for $25 and I love the look of the stock pipe. Also it has lots of volume. I had considered buying a flowmaster but this is less work and cheaper in the long run.

I cut the front and rear off today to remove the guts and get to square one. Sorry for the crappy cell phone pic.



(Message edited by johnnymceldoo on June 16, 2009)
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Zatco81
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zat,
I must say yours is one of the finest sounding modified stockers I've heard.

Thanks a lot, I'll get some fly-by's soon to satisfy the other people.

Hmmm...don't think I would've cut off both ends like that.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it was necessary. evrything inside will get pitched for 45 degree walls. also the inlet has to be centered on the inside so it hits the chamber in the center.

Its an easy tig job anyways to put it back together and by using the saw instead of a plasma cutter I get nice straight cuts with minimal material loss.
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Zatco81
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had no problems with the fit on mine because I cut the sides and across the bottom at the front (still able to get to the inlet) that way I didn't separate any of the fairing mounts.


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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you have any sound clips zatco?

I think Iam going to make the inside of mine similar to this design:

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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The thing Iam not sure about at this point is if those chambers are connected to the topside of the muffler. Looking at the picture they dont appear to be. Maybe they are only half as tall as the muffler.
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Zatco81
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would say they probably are as tall as the muffler. More than likely they are cut away to provide a better view.

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Augustus74
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pretty sure if you look at the outside of a Flowmaster you will see weld marks top and bottom. (where the baffles are)
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds good zatco.

I made the angled piece today after work and Iam going to assume the chambers are full height of the muffler. I hope to have this wrapped up by next week.

Anyone know what Buell puts in the nose of the muffler to give it so much weight?
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Dsword
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is there a catalytic converter up front? That material is wound up and heavy.
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Zatco81
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There was a baffle in the front of mine. Can't remember what was behind the perforated plate but I do know I ripped it all out.
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Thatman
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damn, that sounds mean; I have a stocker sitting here in my living room and was going to get a drummer, but maybe I should think on this a little. That deep sound is kind of sweet.
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