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Aptbldr
| | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 06:16 pm: | 
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What if I change the seat, am I messing with H-D's intellectual property? |
Paint_shaker
| | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 07:04 pm: |
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I used to think carbs were barely controlled fuel leaks and FI was the stuff!!!
However, I don't want/need a vehicle that has to be hooked to a computer to find out what is wrong with it....
My next Harley and most likely my next vehicle will have a carb on it!! |
Xoptimizedrsx
| | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 07:40 pm: |
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well we all still have options. there is still directlink. all you need is the key from them. the ecmspy cable works with it fine. i have tested that.
get your ecm key from AL @ American Sport Bike
now get the direct link new program free.
technoresearch.com.
buell race tuner there thats the file. plug the key into the laptop plug the cable with the vcp driver in. and fetch the ecmdata. dont loose your key.
you now have a working system . sure its locked to a single bike but it will work .
guess i have to call gimberto to have a talk with him again to add more files to the software and let him know about the other cables working. he was waiting on that info.
for direct link to be as good as ecmspy one was the cable they used at first. problem solved. now they need 8 files added which contain 96 bytes of data.
pretty much the rest of the other maps page and configuration bytes that are a single txt of 8 bytes. then it will be as good as ecmspy.
or get the source code from ecmspy.com figure out how to open it. and learn the data strings and ect.
then write your own.
the world has now ended.
gunter is giving us a code to use to make a new system. soon feeding it to us. its there still available. you just have to read the eeprom file page.
you get it or dont.
i get some of it.
plus i can open and read all the source code pages fine.
there are many lines pages folders all stacked.
the world has not ended.
one program is gone but a new one will pop up.
10 years from now the xb will be out dated anyway i believe. we will be all vintage. i'll be almost 50 then. eek!! it wont matter then.
mike
(Message edited by xoptimizedrsx on June 22, 2009)http://www.technoresearch.com/Downloads/downloads-Direct-Link
(Message edited by xoptimizedrsx on June 22, 2009) |
Oddball
| | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 08:53 pm: |
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10 years I will be 50  I can't take 40 as it is.
Well my bike still has a carburetor. Don't know about them new fangled injection things.
(Message edited by oddball on June 22, 2009) |
Andymnelson
| | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 09:01 pm: |
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"My next Harley and most likely my next vehicle will have a carb on it!!" Right on! Fight progress! /sarcasm
FI FTW. |
Zatco81
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 08:21 am: |
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What if I change the seat, am I messing with H-D's intellectual property?
Sounds like you can still replace the seat but you can't shave it, that would be altering someone else's design. Is that right? You can still replace parts but you can't modify them? Maybe I'll get a knock on my door from Erik when he finds out I modded my stock muffler...that would be cool. |
Swordsman
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 09:42 am: |
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@Andy:
Uh, no need to trash talk carbs. They've worked just fine for decades.
You ride an XB.
Would you like some Jap bike boys to mock you because your bike isn't a state of the art water cooled inline 4? You chose an air cooled pushrod. Now who's fighting progress?
~SM |
Iamarchangel
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:19 am: |
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You can do whatever you want with the seat, it's "tangible". The "idea" of a seat on a bike is not something that can be protected.
What you cannot do is claim any part of the design, that "intangible". Only Buell has that right, even if you were the actual designer, the employer is usually the rights holder.
This article might help: http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/Business/Columnists/Ca nton_David/2009/06/22/9883636-sun.html
These laws are international with a few exceptions. So, back to the main issue, if somebody in Sweden would store the files, we could still access them. Sweden has different laws regarding files. But we'd still be taking potential revenue away from the people that built ECMspy. That'd be your own moral decision. |
Andymnelson
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:26 am: |
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"Uh, no need to trash talk carbs."
No one trashed talked carbs. But before I understood FI, I too fought it. Now I understand it quite well, and would take a FI system over carbs any day of the week.
Maybe this wasn't his point, but in the midst of the drama of the discussion about ECM Spy going away it would seem that his point was that because of this his next bike will be carb'd because of it?? That's nonsense. Besides, if you just don't like FI, you're eventually going to be stuck buying old vehicles...
And I ride an X1  |
Keppi
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 08:49 am: |
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show u guys Ralfs (QR) "new" hobbies...
spending a good time with some BUELL-Riders
hit the road with other Buell-People
working against alcohol-dehydration
doing some curves at the Dolomite Alps
working on his 9er
and maybe, he is able to spend a little time with his family....
what u guys do after work? |
Xoptimizedrsx
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 05:04 pm: |
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man I love the piss on japan timing cover that was nice.
any other pics of ralfs bike stuff.
its ok the exe files are gone. I'm gone too.
being part of the work team and the beta side of ecmspy. we are all closed. have fun you guys.
all Us ecmspy guys are off to new adventures.
I'm going back to college with the spare time.
the shops using it commercially for personal gain. well thanks for nothing. you know who you are. its illegal period. your not immune because you sponsor here. thats the truth.
it was nice to be a part of a few years running making and seeing the product develop. shame we all ended like this.
our legacy will live on!!
(Message edited by ••••••••••••• on June 29, 2009)
(Message edited by ••••••••••••• on June 29, 2009) |
Paint_shaker
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 07:49 pm: |
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I wasn't inferring anything other than I want something I can work on without having to plug it into a computer to tell me what is wrong with it or to allow me to fix it.
KISS Keep it Simple Stupid. |
Odie
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 08:20 pm: |
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Oh, how I miss Bavaria......... |
Mrsinister
| | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 01:55 pm: |
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Are the cables still available. I have the old software but I let the cable go a while back. I would sure like to get another cable. |
Mesafirebolt
| | Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 02:48 am: |
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The cable was easy, I had to buy the connector from one place and the cable from another and hook them up but it cost a whopping 15 bucks including shipping. Cant remember the companies or too much of the details but its a special 5 volt usb connector and a Deutsch 4 pin connector. |
Court
| | Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 06:53 am: |
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Mike:
Are you any relation to the Xoptiinside website?
Where did you get the Buell manuals you are offering?
They appear to be pirated.
I am curious as to how you justify this.
Court |
Fastxb12r
| | Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 10:01 am: |
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OMG....
Come on.....
You do realize that while many people say they dont condone those copies about say 80% of those already have it downloaded and are using them.Please get over it......
Maybe you should write to the people who are stealing money from little old ladies in africa doing scams....... |
Blake
| | Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 10:43 am: |
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Poor ethics. Mike needs to avoid posting here, period. I'm tired of having to remind him about non-sponsor policy and business ethics. I don't know how many times he's been warned against advertising, now he's back at it. Don't look for them; the problematic posts have been removed.
It is damn disappointing to see how easily some people are willing to excuse dishonorable/unethical behavior, let alone criminal behavior, by the public at large in favor of their own selfish interests.
I strongly applaud what Didactic (Nelson) posted, Personally my time is limited and my tolerance for BS is lower and lower these days, and even decent folks like Dark Horse Moto and American Sport Bike can't balance the experience of dealing with a group of people who seem to think rowing in your own direction will get the ship somewhere...just means your a selfish d!ck who should get his own dingy.
+99E99!
BadWeB despises selfish d!icks. If you want to enjoy this site, don't be one. I think we may even add a new statement to our terms of use prohibiting the use of the site by any "selfish d!icks".
Thank you Nelson for stating what needs to be stated. I very much appreciate it.
And thank you Court for looking after the integrity of the place. Some people are just a constant disappointment. |
Court
| | Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 11:19 am: |
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quote:And thank you Court for looking after the integrity of the place. Some people are just a constant disappointment.
Thanks.
I'll try to do better.
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Fastxb12r
| | Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 01:27 pm: |
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Fastxb12r
| | Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 03:47 pm: |
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I dont understand why so many people on this site bash "X o p t i " he hasent screwed you over so why so much venom towards him.Hes a good guy and people shouldnt be so quick to throw stones.
Wow now I cant even say ••••• =="x o p t i"""" thats really a little over the top.I can say fastxb12r though so realllllly......  |
Blake
| | Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 06:34 am: |
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I've given him every benefit of doubt, but my experience has been repeatedly disappointing and overwhelmingly negative. That you or anyone may not "understand", especially if you are the type who likes to use pirated merchandise, means absolutely nothing here.
If however you were a longtime and highly respected contributor here, your words would indeed carry some weight. |
