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Jraice
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a pitbull rear stand for spools (no good for the buell).

I was planning to get the swing arm adaptor and a front stand so that I could do my own wheel removal for a tire change but then was told there is a local shop that does free install of tires purchased there AND will loan out stands...

Makes me think it would be better to just sell the stand and use there stuff.

Any other tasks I am not thinking of that a rear and front stand would be very helpful for? And by very helpful I mean worth $200+...
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Nik
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rear is also useful for transmission fluid changes and anything that requires rotating the engine.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rear stand is nice for doing any kind of work. It keep the bike level, and raises it a few inches so everything else is within reach a bit more. I love it for the once a year washing of my bike, I don't have to roll the bike 20 times to get to different spokes. Better to have it and not need it instead of not having it and needing it.
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Jraice
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Transmission fluid change (my first will be in 500 miles) requires an upright bike?

Awesome then it would be pointless to sell it now for less then I paid for it. Guess Ill spend the $20's for swingarm adaptors!

Now I just need to decide whether its worth it to buy a front stand (rotating spokes when washing etc... and save a trip to the shop to borrow there's)...

I guess I can always buy it later on when money is more abundant!

Anyways thanks guys! Convinced me to keep it...
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, get the flat adapter and keep it. There's a lot of basic maintenance, service, troubleshooting, etc., that you will appreciate having a stand.

You were "told" about the store, check it out and what's involved with the loan.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The front stand dosen't like the Uly beak, DAMHIK. : D
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Andymnelson
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

get the adapters, AND get a set of spools/sliders. use the spool adapters for everything that doesn't require wheel removal- its remarkably stable. use the other adapters when wheel removal is necessary. no front stand is necessary for regular maint- just put the rear up on the spool stand and if you need the front up, put a jack under the muffler jack points
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Jraice
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Andy... What would I use for changing both tires though if I dont have a front stand and cant take the rear wheel off with the spool stand?

I bought non spool Dark Horse Moto sliders so I doubt spools will be in my future : p.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sell the pit bull and go get a front and rear for the same price.....

http://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=15&ret=in dex.php
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Icunh
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bike needs to be level to get out all of the fluid in your primary, and to accurately check level. Hey Jraice I hope you broke down and finally bought a service manual. I did. great bathroom read!!
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those front T-rexes wont let you take the wheel off, DAMHIK.



Back one worked fine.
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Jraice
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have yet to get a service manual but will be picking one up before doing any oil or wheel service!

So would I be okay to do the primary fill with just a rear stand (bikes upright but not level from tire to tire)?

I dont want to get a front stand unless I absolutely need to.
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Boltrider
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Custom stumps....I like it!

How stable is jacking it up from the muffler? Seems like it would wobble all over the place.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i take the front wheel off of my Ss with the T-Rex all the time, you just need the triple tree extention one.... i put the wrong link up...

Actually i just looked, these new t-rex's come with either/or front stand now. Mine i can lift the front by the forks, or put the triple tree adapter one and take the front wheel off with the same stand.. wonder why they started doing that!

http://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=114&catid =46&ret=catalog.php%3Fcategory%3D46
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you got a custom made adapter for the muffler, it is nice and stable assuming the adapter doesn't collapse : )
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dont want to get a front stand unless I absolutely need to.

If you ever plan on changing brake pads or front tire you will want one! Plus as Froggy said, makes it alot easier to wash
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Changed my brake pads easy with no front stand.
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Andymnelson
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well if it were me, I would have listened to people's advice when I asked about sliders and bought the ones with spools. For real, if I bought a bike with sliders only, one of the first things I would do is sell the sliders and buy new ones with spools.

If you don't want to do that, then go the route of buying another front stand. I have never needed a front stand for mine, because I have a rear with spool adapters and one with frame lift adapters and a jack for the muffler.

Front brake and tire changes are FAR easier without a stand getting in your way.
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Ratfink
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have pitbull stands front and rear. I love em! But they aren't cheap. They are extremely easy to use though. Sad part is trying to get them back from friends that borrow them! They lift the bike up so lower things are easier to reach and they were priceless when I needed to rotate my motor to fix a broken stud. My next purchase is a bike lift from harbor fright. Can't wait.
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Aptbldr
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"... bike lift ..."
Me, too!
20% off coupon at HF website for in store merchandise.
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Petebueller
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



Supports under the swing arm are more useful than spool lifts because you can't take off the rear wheel with the spool lifts. Tho you need a jack or list to do the steering head or swing arm.
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Cmm213
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will not part with my rear pit bull, it has the rubber side and the spool if needed. Plus the drummer can be jacked with my low profile race jack, no brainer. Rear stand almost a must!
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Shimpeno
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i just bought a rear stand from Harbor Freight for 40 bucks! Google Harbor Freight then search their site for "motorcycle", browse till you find the rear stand for 40$}
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Shimpeno
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

40 bucks from Harbor Freight and Tool. shipping was 7.99 think.



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Jraice
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fact of the matter is I have a pitbull spool stand so I am just going to get the adaptors so I can do the swing arm.

What would you guys recommend for the front?

I just need to change my tires : p.

Whether I do both at the same time (thats where the sturdy pitbull comes in handy) or one at a time (whats a good wheel removal friendly front stand?) and get a less expensive front stand...
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Jraice
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fact of the matter is I have a pitbull spool stand (not really worth it to sell it and get a harbor) so I am just going to get the adaptors so I can do the swing arm.

What would you guys recommend for the front?

I just need to change my tires : p.

Whether I do both at the same time (thats where the sturdy pitbull comes in handy) or one at a time (whats a good wheel removal friendly front stand?) and get a less expensive front stand...
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Jraice
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Need some info ASAP.

Will a standard pitbull rear stand with the reversable (spool and swing arm adaptor) mount fit a buell XB12Ss? I heard from someone it was to wide, another said if you took off some washers it would fit.

Found someone selling a pitbull locally, the new owner said he only needs spool and would be willing to swap with some cash given to him my spool only for the reversable. Win win in my eyes, dont need to order online and if I ever own a bike with spools Ill have the ability to use it still.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you take your spool things, put them in your backpack and ride over to him and try it? If his stand works, do the swap and be on your way.
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Jraice
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

(Slaps self on head).

That would be the smart thing to do huh : p.

I was planning to make him come see me as I am giving him a part AND cash but I suppose I will just do the driving and be sure it works.

Is it true though that buells are wider then most bikes?
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think they're wider. Most stands have a spring on the arms to keep them narrower. Take the spring off and put it on the outside, no problem.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The front end needs to be lifted by the bottom triple, not the fork ends. The depth of the fork end casting is different left-to-right and isn't stable. (one side sits "higher" than the other)
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