| Author | Message | ||
     Jraice |
Stripping down the bars to put the new bars on. So far I have the clutch side controls off, clutch side grip, both bar end mirrors and I am now working on the clutch itself. Whats the best way to remove? Should I just slide the bar out and leave everything intact, or remove the single bolt holding the lever on and then remove the clutch cable from the lever so I can just slide the hub (piece on the bar) off alone? In the meantime Ill start working on the throttle side! | ||
| Froggy |
I had no luck cheating and trying to leave it all in tact when I did a bar swap. I had to disassemble the whole thing. Also having the heated grips made it a pain as the cord didn't have any extra slack. | ||
| Jraice |
Thanks... I was able to do it without. Just slid it through. Now I have an even bigger problem, exactly what I was worried about. Cable lengths! Clutch doesnt seem like it has length at all, brake line wont fit (not sure about throttle). Brakes I think I can pull some slack from the lower section but that will require some digging around, clutch I am not sure how to find some slack from in the instrument hud area. Throttle cables probably wont fit either. Any tips? Ill check back here in an hour, going to go toy around a bit more then get some grub. | ||
| Froggy |
Never had to reroute the cables, but I wasn't going to an aftermarket bar. Worst comes to worst, the Uly cables are longer. | ||
| Jraice |
I know the uly cables will work as someone on here used the Uly with the same bar/riser combo. The throttle cables I cant really tell yet, brakes shouldnt be a problem at all. Its just the clutch, seems to be about 1-2"s to short! Is there any way to get some more length out of it? Doesnt seem like it... A clutch cable (Uly) cant be TO expensive, not like a stainless break line so perhaps thats what Ill have to do. And since I already have the bike taken apart I might get the clutch cable tomorrow and see if I can get it all put together by 5:30 for the group ride I was planning to attend! This stinks! | ||
| Jraice |
Update: Brake cable is SUPER close. I think I can slide it up an inch or so and it will fit. Clutch still seems WAY off. Trying to mock it up now to check the throttle. If all I have to change is the clutch I wont be to angry, but I am definetly a little bummed that it didnt all fit together perfectly. | ||
| Jraice |
%$%@#$)*$%^_W$*%^!!!!!!!! Im about at the point of installing the regular bars again and selling the parts. I really liked the riding position of this bar to! Anyways, brake looks like it COULD work with some work but I cant seem to get the upper (in the HUD) rubber piece holding it in place to budge. I only need maybe another 3/4". Throttle cables are ALMOST long enough, oh and now the entire throttle assembly (not the first time I have taken it apart) does not seem to close up very well, even not on the bar. Anybody have a schematic for how the throttle cables rest in the bottom part of the housing? And the clutch as I said was way to short. Big time bummer to my excitement when I saw the bars had finally came... | ||
| Calimari |
Did you try removing some clamps that hold the clutch cable/brake cable on? I got a lot of slack for my clutch by doing that, same with my brake. Had no prob with my throttle cables. My clutch cable runs up next to my left fork. I am using different bars tho, clubmans with a 1 inch lift. | ||
| Jraice |
What type of bike do you ride calimari? Clutch cable appears to not have any clamps really, its just totally stretched as is. Brake line I think I can get away with 1" more and I think I can get that from the clamps. What clamps are you talking about with the clutch? I would love it if I could make it all fit! Now I am thinking electrical's might be a problem to. How hard would it be to switch clutch, throttle, electrical from clutch and from throttle housings all to the Uly? One night project? Hoping the local shop stocks the parts, I am up for slaving away all day tomorrow if I can come out of it with the setup all done. | ||
| Jraice |
Found the slack your talking about, down by the chin fairing. Have some work to do in the house then Ill go out in the garage and see about giving this all another try... Brake needs some work but I am confident I can get it to work. I cant tell if the throttle cables will work, its going to be TIGHT either way. Clutch might work if I can get that slack, will see. Still cant seem to get the throttle housing assembled right, any schematics or anything? Its the point where the two cables go into the housing, there is a 1/32" (very small) gap but it just doesnt seem like its piecing together correctly. | ||
| Calimari |
The clamp I removed was the wire one that breaks a lot and causes the cable to bump into the headers. I also pulled the clutch cable through the hole in the triple tree to so I could run it more to the left. I could take it off the front tie bar as well to get even more slack if I needed. You should be able to get all the slack you need from your cable. As for the brake, I just removed the 2 upper clamps to get enough slack. Not too hard, just look for better routing paths and places where slack is being used up. My setup is a little different but I bet you can get it to work. I have an '08 Xb12Scg and those clubmans have some crazy angles to work with. If I could do it, so can you.  | ||
| Jraice |
Thanks... I actually just got it to work! Clutch seems to feel fine. Brake fits but I am going to loosen the banjo and turn it a bit, its currently bent at a strange angle. It is stainless but still it worries me. Electricals barely fit, they are pulled a little tight but Ill let them fail before I start replacing them with longer leads. I dont anticipate problems. Only worry is the throttle cables. And on that subject, whats the procedure for a quick throttle adjustment? What about the clutch? My throttle is totally out of wack but the clutch seems fine. Just need to get some hair spray and apply the grips then reinstall my bar end mirrors! | ||
| Calimari |
You should buy a factory manual, I waited for mine before I did the bar swap. I don't really wanna type all of those jobs out. Not sure if the 2008 manual will work for a 2009 but I bet they're pretty similar. PM me, and I'll take some pics of pages you need. | ||
| Ducxl |
Strange....I thought this was a thread about "Clutch hub removal". And it seems to be about handlebars..yes? The clutch hub is the inner portion of the clutch basket.THat is splined to the steel plates.The friction plates are tied to the basket.Guess i'm off topic,nothing new | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I thought so as well. | ||
| Jraice |
Thread started out as being about the clutch mount, I guess I used the wrong word by saying hub. It was the first question of my maintenance and I would gladly make a new thread for each of the questions but then someone would complain about that as well! Anyways bars are working great and I am off to ride until late into the night  . Going for a spin around my roads solo then a group ride in Milpitas and some more toying around afterwards. Anyways thanks guys and yes a service manual will be on the way. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Awesome! Hope you like it! | ||
| Jraice |
Since I have now converted this thread to my general handle bar thread  . Just went on a long ride! Did some solo then the group and it was AWESOME. Lots of super tight twisty roads and then some fast roads with some quick corners, felt much more confident then I have before. On the technical roads I was able to lean with more confidence on the tighter hair pins and actually took my rear tire chicken strip down to about 3/32" . Still need to get new grips and put them on, as well as install the right bar end mirror. I adjusted the brake banjo bolt so the brake lane now has plenty of slack, throttle cables worked fine and clutch worked fine. All in all I think the setup is fine as is and I am loving it! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Fantastic! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Make sure to check all your connections from time to time to make sure that they aren't chafing or stretching. | ||
| Jraice |
Ill check the bar connections, I cant see whats in the hub but its fine so far. In the last two days I put almost 200 miles on the bike, pretty good considering thats after school riding . Anyways, bars are amazing. Really feels excellent in the corners and gives me a lot more confidence. Tonight was my third group ride and I am able to ride a noticeably faster pace, I attribute a good bit of that credit to the bars. Saturday Ill be doing another group ride then Sunday a cornering clinic/group ride. Im stoked! Just need to swing by Cycle Gear (probably wont be able to until next week or so) and get another set of grips to install (buell traction throttle with the pro grip on the left  ... also only have a left bar end mirror right now), install those and put the bar end on. Then it will be all complete! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
A lot of the confidence is also due to the change in body position. You are positioned closer to the front wheel and hanging off places you lower toward the center of the turn. You are also able to control the bars more precisely while in the turn. Makes all the difference. I wish the CR clubman bars were more flat and low at the same time. The conversion helps a lot, but it's still higher than would be optimum. | ||
| Jraice |
I thought you had the Carmichaels like me? CR clubmans? And yeah the change in riding position is part of it but you have to remember. The difference from the stock Uly to the flat bars was huge. I am not leaning over THAT much more now then I already was. Its actually almost unnoticeable. And yeah I am using my upper body a lot to hang off but have yet to start moving my lower body around. | ||
| Ducxl |
YAAAAYYYYyy! Good for you Jraice! I wasn't complaining.Just an observation. You're my hero BTW. Yah. Too many riders seek to raise and pull back their bars apehanger style. I likem' as close to the front axle as i can get  Now your newly christened "Handlebar" thread is USELESS without pictures  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Looking toward the next motorcycle. Yes, pictures are a must!!!!!!! |
