| Author | Message | ||
     Spacecapsule1 |
....if i'm in 1st gear at 5k rpms and i crack the throttle wide open, is it possible to loop my bike? how about 4.5k? those seem to be the best rpms for pulling a little 1st gear power wheelie.... but i'm a chicken. Just trying it out.... are you folks leaning forward any, sitting back any, or just in a normal riding position? this is on a TT. i'm sure it's a little different on the s and r's. | ||
| Js_buell |
If you just crack the throttle open it should be fine if you close and reopen real fast (snap it open fro close) then I say there is a good possibility if you don't know how to control a wheelie. PS: I'm no pro | ||
| Blackm2 |
Ok, why would you want to start learning wheelies on a nice bike? I want a money tree in my back yard too damn it! Oh and it ain't being chicken Space, it's called prudent, or..self preservation. Comes with the advancement of years. | ||
| Littlefella |
My xb9sx will pull the front end up no problem in 1st at 5 grand. I have to use the clutch in 2nd though. If you hit a dip in the road just right it will power up in 2nd. | ||
| Bueller83 |
start out slow and cover the rear brake. GO a little higher each time balance point is not an easy place to get to i cant seem to hold it there yet but i am practicing more and more | ||
| Bueller83 |
4-5 K will get you up but depending on how fast or slow you are going depends on how high it will get you | ||
| Bueller83 |
Not claiming to be a pro though dont try this at home | ||
| Jraice |
I doubt you would loop it without cracking it open right after closing it (bounces off the forks). I do know that with a dip in the road these things come right up, a few weeks back I was accelerating barely, probably half throttle 2nd gear after coming out of a very tight turn so speeds were low but a bump in the road got that front tire up in the air for a second or two. If I had been in first or harder on the gas in 2nd I would assume it would've been a much scarier ordeal. | ||
| Too_tall_ss |
My SS comes up with no problem in first, it'll power wheelie every time I crack it wide open. No need to preload the forks, just lean on back and let it rip  | ||
| Jraice |
I still dont have the kahunas to crack my bike open in 1st. If I crack it in 2nd I can feel the front get super light, if I smoothly apply it in 1st at a decent rate the front gets even lighter but I havent played around with a true crack yet... | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Series of 3 lessons from Buell stunt rider. Some good basics. Here's the first one, that'll get you to the rest. | ||
| Chuckanut |
How do you post youtube vids? Found a good one just dont know how to post | ||
| Poppinsexz |
Cut the throttle about 3500-4000 then roll back in and it should come right on up. practice rolling in a little faster each time. and cover the rear brake with your foot. You can walk it up a little bit at a time until your comfortable. Like someone said an old small dirt bike is best to practice on until you get the feel. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Video link: look at bottom of every page > click on help/instructions back to regular thread.} | ||
| Teh_nub |
My Ss will power wheelie cracking on it at 3500 rpm's. I have this round about that I go through that I can't keep the front end down when powering out of the corner. | ||
| Krueger08xb12s |
these bikes are the best for bunny hopping too! any decent dip in the road at about 10 or 20 mph and a little technique, you'll find yourself 6'' above the road or more if you're nuts! My absolute addiction now is corner wheelies! Roll thru at 15mph and hammer the throttle at the apex and start very small. Bringing the wheelie up isn't the hard part, finding the right time to bring it down straight is, but at slow speeds tank slaps are mostly eliminated. Be safe and start small! | ||
| Duff24 |
Easiest and best way to learn wheelies is to practice using the clutch/throttle. You won't run out of RPM's nearly as fast as power wheelies. Practice using the REAR BRAKE first of all........ | ||
| Duff24 |
Havin fun.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv7y_MB3CwI (Message edited by duff24 on April 29, 2009) | ||
| Spacecapsule1 |
thanks for the input folks. What i'm trying to find out was if there was a safe rpm that I could crack the throttle open WITHOUT having to worry about flipping the bike? My idea was to do that just to get the wheel up a little to start getting the feel of things. I WANT to run out of rpms so i don't flip over by accident while i'm trying to learn.... so.... am I safe trying that from 5k in first? (Message edited by spacecapsule1 on April 30, 2009) | ||
| Srwitt |
You don't even need full throttle in first using the bounce method. Boucing works best on my 12R between 35 and 40, I run up to 40 really hard, cut the throttle momentarily and then open it back up, the front end lofts and carries to the rev limit and then sets down, sometimes hard, sometimes soft. First gear clutch ups are effortless, but you best be ready on the rear brake cause it will come up quick. | ||
| Spacecapsule1 |
...yeah that's why i thought it'd be best to start with power wheelies. | ||
| Clutchless |
best thing for never lofting front end and you have the urge to try to see..."am I going to like this?" start at a power wheelie (chopping off the gas, and rolling back into it as the suspension unloads you up) if you cant power wheelie, dont go dumping the clutch thinking you dont have enough power there, its there...all of it. Once you can throw out a little power wheel (I know I spelled it wrong, I call them power wheels, cause I'm that guy) I'm talking a real power wheelie 2 inches off the ground for about 100 yards. You are ready to start clutching up. (those wheelies that are real close to the ground and real long are the best in my opinion anyways...I like the speed) Your always going to be at risk for looping the bike, no matter what. You are throwing the heavier part of the suspension and frame up into the air in front of you, its risky business. If you dont have a small cc dirtbike, then try it out on a BMX bike to get some sort of feeling for it. I would carry on down the street for days on the rear of my HARO bicycle when I was young, of course making a few stops here and there on my head. That might have something to do with why I carry on the way I do on my motorcycle...hmmm If you do it, its gonna happen. I havent heard of anyone thats been doing wheelies for years and never looped a bike. what kind of gear do you have to help you stay alive is the real question, cause it seems pretty obvious your gonna do it. P.S.-I'm not a pro, but people called me "Crash" for the longest time when I was 21-22 yrs old....dont be like me (Message edited by clutchless on April 30, 2009) | ||
| Duff24 |
Guess I've been lucky but I haven't looped a big bike in 5 yrs. I learned using the clutch, its a little less intense with the RPM's. | ||
| Clutchless |
you are the exception on why I thought I could do it duff. and because you have inhuman wheelie powers called "balls". Dont think your gonna get hurt, and most times you wont. but I learned after hurting myself once, that I was riding beyond my ability, and I turned to organizing a smaller bike to learn and bruise around on. I have since then passed that point of my own fault, and managed to scrape tail on my buddies cbr with a 12 bar. Guess you gotta want it. but really duff you got more wheelie than I do,I was never was really a natural at it, till I got about 5 yrs on the saddle. | ||
| Chuckanut |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn-IGhCiO7k We'll see if this works sorry if a repost | ||
| Chuckanut |
SWEET! I thought this vid was pretty damn impressive | ||
| Hotrod427 |
Wow. I mean.... wow.  | ||
| Duff24 |
Using a handbrake and a crash cage. Cheater. (Message edited by duff24 on May 01, 2009) | ||
| Zatco81 |
I watch guys riding wheelies like that and think to myself "I think I can do that." Then I see guys riding wheelies like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qc5HHDpF9s&feature =related and think "there's no way in hell I'm tearing up my bike, where's my son's Honda 50?"  |
