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Naughtynurse
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I never said that atkins died from his diet.
Bruce lee you can call me ignorant all you want
Atkins is for people who what fast results its not for the long hall and it definetly does not teach you for long term lifestyle changes
and dyna your lingo ....well ya know
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Brucelee
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I never said that atkins died from his diet.
Bruce lee you can call me ignorant all you want
Atkins is for people who what fast results its not for the long hall and it definetly does not teach you for long term lifestyle changes
and dyna your lingo ....well ya know"

Well, I assume you are a nurse, so lets try some science instead of opinion. Have you seen the side by side studies comparing Atkins vs. the "reasonable" low fat diet.

Check it out.

Re: Long term use, I have only been using a low carb approach for say, oh about 35 yrs!

Come on, lets get rigorous here. Open your mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Davefl
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So Bubba, Have you got that stack installed yet.
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Naughtynurse
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=11234

www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=3006728


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Naughtynurse
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There I am done...i said what I have to say
Just remember if I was the nurse at your bedside taking care of you (brucelee), You would want me there.
Bubba back to you start posting about your stack and you all get back to the original post
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Brucelee
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"There I am done...i said what I have to say
Just remember if I was the nurse at your bedside taking care of you (brucelee), You would want me there.
Bubba back to you start posting about your stack and you all get back to the original post "

No science there, just AHA opinion and contradiction.

Re: you by my bedside, depends on how pretty you are. But, you would have to brush up on scientific method.


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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brucelee sounds like your in the medical field.Or are you just ignorant???My wife has been a CCU nurse for going on 12 yrs and working under one of the best cardiovascular surgeons in the country.Who's ignorant here your not reading what she has posted very well.As far as who's at your bedside you don't have that choice.
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Whodom
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, hopefully all this diet stuff will be irrelevant in a few years anyway:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=541&ncid=751&e=1&u=/ap/20040131/ ap_on_he_me/heart_future

Then we call all go back to eating fried chicken, ribs, etc. and take a pill once a day to keep our arteries cleared out!

Hugh
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Metalstorm
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This thread's making me hungry. I'm going to Wendy's.

I hear that if you have the bottom part of your esophagus (sp?)removed just above the stomach and have it replaced with an aluminum velocity stack, that it speeds up the digestion proccess and burns the food at a much higher rate than without thus giving you more power and cleaner exhaust.

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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like that Metalstorm.Who performs this procedure???
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Easyflier
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bad, as soon as Aaron gets the necessary fixtures done I'm sure that Nallin will do it.

(Rumor has it that it comes with a free NRHS tatoo during the month of April)
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Brucelee
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Brucelee sounds like your in the medical field.Or are you just ignorant???My wife has been a CCU nurse for going on 12 yrs and working under one of the best cardiovascular surgeons in the country.Who's ignorant here your not reading what she has posted very well.As far as who's at your bedside you don't have that choice"

You are entitled to your opinion, as wrongheaded as it may be. And regarding your wife, I am sure she is a nice lady.

That doesn't change the lack of precision in this conversation. Equating a ham and cheese sandwich, glass of mile and ice cream to the Atkins diet is simply reveals that she does not know what she is talking about.

Or you either for that matter.

Science, anyone, anyone????????

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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is a classic example of TAOAT...for Naughtys benefit I will finally spell that out.

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Vik came up with it & its so true. Look what we began with...velocity stacks & somehow it turns into a flame war regarding the atkins diet.

My wife has done that diet bit a few times & it appears harmless enough. Does get a bit pricey tho eating basically nothing but meat & cheese. Also seems like she would hit a plateau & level out & that was that, no more weight loss.

Its like anything else in life, so long as you do it in moderation & not for months at a time, it shouldnt cause any long term health effects.

I hear that if you have the bottom part of your esophagus (sp?)removed just above the stomach and have it replaced with an aluminum velocity stack, that it speeds up the digestion proccess and burns the food at a much higher rate than without thus giving you more power and cleaner exhaust.

I should look into that. I have whats known as shatzis ring...may have mispelled that one..its basically a narrowing of the throat right where it enters the stomach. A few minor ulcers in that area & a few in the stomach can really cause it to flare up & close the throat off. Have to go into the hospital about 2 times a year where they perform what basically amounts to an angioplasty where they stretch the lower portion of the throat where the ring is with a ballon. If I had the aluminum intake installed I could avoid any more trips to the hospital.

Thanks for the idea, I will let my Doc know: D
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Easyflier
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna, for internal use I'm convinced that titanium would be the best choice. : )
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IGNORANT JUST LIKE SAID!!!!!!!

Now back to talking about stacks like the thread state.Thank you Dyna
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Brucelee
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"IGNORANT JUST LIKE SAID!!!!!!! "

Gee, typing in larger font makes your point so much more eloquently! Yet, you forgot a word I believe?

Well, still no science. Perfect for the husband of a nurse!!
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Hardluckxb
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey thread jackers...
Take this discussion elsewhere!!! Your all boring the hell outta me. If I wanted to hear about other peoples ignorance, diets or health issues I could call my mother or sisters.

I would like to know how much impact the Velocity Stack is going to have on XB performance. And I could care less about the attitude and marketing tactics of those involved in the product's creation. If it demonstrates impressive gains for a reasonable price, I will definitely be an early adopter.

I say we start making estimates of how much power the stack it going to add before it gets off the dyno.

So who's first?
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Oconnor
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well if buckinfubba eats three bags of pork rinds, a bag of M&M's, 3 cheeseburgers and 2 packs of camels by then, his bike should loose about 2 hp. Oh is that diet health stuff again... Just playin.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My stack bet is 2-3 hp
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Naughtynurse
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

btw that was a quote I got from a medical journal it was not "my " words. I used it to make my point across. All of my words to back up "my Opinions" were from medical sites and journals online....
As for medical science...I am very aware of the method and hypothesis issue brucelee....
Brucelee you make your self to look like an A**
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Naughtynurse
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 04:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

new posting under quick board
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Brucelee
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Name calling IS the highest form of dialog! Must be in nurse land (hey, you ARE almost a doctor!)

However, science marches on!

See below:

"Here is a summary of some the studies. In a study funded by the Atkins Foundation, Duke University Medical Center researchers compared the Atkins diet to the low-fat, low-calorie diet. After six months, the Atkins dieters had lost more weight and, remarkably, had better cholesterol readings than those on a conventional diet.

In another six-month study, not supported by the Atkins Foundation, a University of Cincinnati team found that Atkins dieters lost more weight and more body fat than the low-fat, low-calorie dieters, corroborating at least part of the Duke study. But, unlike that study, the cholesterol readings of the two groups were about the same.

Researchers at the Philadelphia Veterans Affairs Medical Center compared the effects of a low-carbohydrate diet with those of a low-calorie diet. In their study, which included only very overweight individuals - people on the low-carbohydrate diet lost more weight over six months than did those on a low-calorie, low-fat diet.

Finally, another small, one-year study looked at the effect of the Atkins diet on weight loss and heart disease risk factors in obese people. After six months, Atkins dieters had lost a little more weight than the conventional dieters had.

However, after one year, the two groups had lost about the same number of pounds.

The low-carbohydrate dieters had greater improvement in certain heart disease risk factors - HDL ("good"; ) cholesterol levels went up, and triglycerides went down."


Don't you love it? OK, keep eating that PASTA!!
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Brucelee
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just a bit more!

One theory is that, calorie-for-calorie, fat is better than carbohydrates at controlling appetite. A 2001 Harvard study supports this idea. After 18 months, individuals on a moderate-fat diet (which emphasized "healthy fats," not saturated fats) had lost an average of about nine pounds.

Low-fat dieters actually gained, on average, about six pounds because they couldn't stick with the program.

Because none of these trials lasted very long, they can't tell us about the long-term effects of this diet. Also, the studies involved small numbers of people, so it is hard to know whether the results were due to the diet, or occurred by chance.

Only larger, longer studies can determine the potential risks and benefits of a low-carb, high-fat diet. But the recent results are food for thought.

Also, data from the Nurses' Health Study indicate high-protein diets may decrease the risk of heart disease.
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Naughtynurse
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess you just are not getting my point..just keep on arguing since that is what pleases you now why don't you get back to the BUELL end of this thread already
Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and all of my supports are opposites of yours I could keep going on and on...
I really do not like your stabs at nurses we are professionals and I know I speak for all ...
I was going to argue you more on another thread but I am not Stooping to your level I am much better than that
So lets please talk about motorcycles now isn't that what this thread is for????
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Brucelee
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, OK, isnt that Buell XB9S a great bike??

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Tucsonxb9s
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna, you finally reveal the true meaning of TAOAT, and does that ever fit! Please enough with the diet BS and back to the stack. I'm with wycked, 2-3 hp gain. Bubba, is it going to the dyno tomorrow?
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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A lot of these posts end in weird tangents. Some are actually steered that way on purpose. Court is a master on tangental topic shifting. And thats not said in a bad manner either.
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Whodom
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK, I've got an on-topic post for this. Have any of you thought whether the standard "velocity stack" shape is the optimum shape for what you're trying to do? (I.E.- guide the air into the carb/throttle body with minimum turbulence and restriction). I ask because I have seen a modification of this shape on a very different application, but I think it makes a lot of sense for this application too. The problem I see with a standard velocity stack shape is the edge of the "lip" at the entrance to the velocity stack. The problem with this is not that hard to understand when you see the velocity stack stuffed down in the air filter box. Air enters the filter, and a substantial portion of it has to come up and around that sharp lip at the entrance to the stack. Once it's inside the stack, the stack does a great job of guiding it into the intake with minimal restriction.

OK, here's the improvement to the shape I've seen. If you imagine the velocity stack sliced in half (a cross-sectional view), instead of beginning the stack with a sharp "lip", continue this radius around and down to the outside of the body.

This shape has been used on (of all things) some advanced steam locomotive exhaust systems (this would be the bottom part of the exhaust stack down inside the boiler). The image below is a "quick and dirty" illustration I did in Paint. It might be a little hard to fit this shape within the confines of a Buell XB airbox, but I think you can see where the advantage is this shape would be.

I'd be interested in hearing comments on this.


Velocity Stack
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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You could try it easily enough with duct tape. Wrap it around the stack tightly until you get the desired shape & then dyno test it.

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Oconnor
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Talked to twm and they recommended a radius horn...
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