| Author | Message | ||
     H2owerker |
"Marines, or Marine wannabes are such a stupid bunch.....just a bunch of retards that are thickheaded and think they're invincible. "-Juniorkirk I'd agree w/ Court and Boney95...but I read your profile. Alright. Can we get back to Wheel-ease.  | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Marines, or Marine wannabes are such a stupid bunch.....just a bunch of retards that are thickheaded and think they're invincible. not until ya eat the peanuts out of my $hit... LOL Sgt Gainer M.A. USMC 1985-1991 YAT YAS That pie hole be spout'n fight'n words.... and I'll kick any retards A$$... no offense to the tards... | ||
| Juniorkirk |
WEEEEEE!!!!!  | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Hey Court! Don't let the boot yank your chain! LOL... I got more air time jump'n out of the back of 6X'S than Junior's got in the suck.... I got more time in the chow line at Court House Bay.... I got more time in getting my bore punched at sickbay.... I got more time in pinch'n steamers in the head of the USS Sumter.... BOOT! | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
and lets not forget.....  | ||
| Boney95 |
"Bore punched" I havent heard that in awhile. Boots will be Boots. Go get me the keys for the Hummer and a box of grid squares.  | ||
| Jraice |
To the statement that it doesnt seem as fast as it is... Agreed, the speedo definetly walks faster then you'd think but again guys I am getting on the gas but still riding a lot more reserved then a lot of you guys who are telling me to be careful but in the same sentence saying you go 120mph next to 600cc I4's... I've never been over 90mph on two wheels and even then that was only for 2-3 seconds and with an optomistic speedo is more like 81mph! | ||
| Juniorkirk |
Mark, just cause i picked up corporal in under 2 years, and my total time in service so far is not even at the 2 1/2 year mark.......wait, where was i going with this, that does make me a boot, but hey, I'm still here fighting for my country and keeping up what you guys started back in the stone ages. And where did i put those batteries to the chem-lights, thing ran out of juice on me AGAIN! | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
When I was in, it was Club Med Marine Corps... I don't envy what you guys are doing now.... remind me to tell ya about it.... | ||
| Xbgeorge |
Jraice, I believe you when you said you ride slow. Your top speed is listed as 85. That was the reason you gave for wanting to get rid of the R6, too much power. Nobody here is saying that you are going nuts out there. Most are just worried about you because of your age. You do seem to be more cautious and mature than most other 17 year olds, but we were all 17 once. All of this talking is out of concern. Last year we had a young High School guy come on here asking alot of questions. He had plans to be a Marine. But he was not like you. He talked about going fast and lane splitting. So many people gave him good advice on riding and his future military career. Then one day we learned of his death. He was going into a corner too fast and didn't make it. Alot of people on here are service members or have served. Even though we didn't know him, it hurt. Like we lost one of our own. He was a kid, like you, and taken way too early. There are many older guys, I'm 37, that really care about the youth of today. I have been in the Navy for 19.5 years and lead guys your age and older every day, and I am awestruck at the responsibility they assume. We get a father complex sometimes, but I think that is good. We want you to be around long after we are gone and resting. Keep riding safely, like you do. You have all the time in the world to get used to that bike. | ||
| Rah7777777 |
well put Xbgeorge! | ||
| Juniorkirk |
I've put over 17,000 miles on my buell in the last 2 1/2 years and only in the last 4,000 miles i've gotten use enough to the bike to start leaning off my bike in turns. | ||
| Jraice |
Thanks Xbgeorge as I said I appreciate all the concern... And to Juniorkirk, how long it takes someone to feel comfortable on a bike is all relative. Now if I had said I was going to go out next weekend and try to drag knee I would welcome some critsism but I have around 5,000-6,000 miles on two wheels, all in well under a year and 2-3K of them on a 50cc two stroke, which means lower speeds and much more time on the saddle. Yes half of my riding career was on a "baby bike" but 55mph in the twisties is 55mph in the twisties. Yes it might not loft the front tire or skid the rear but it went fast enough to get killed and to still learn a ton... Especially because it required lots of momentum, couldnt rely on the power to pull me out of corners. If it took you two years to feel comfortable scooting you butt over then thats fine, everybody has their own learning curve and you must do what feels safe. I dont feel that I have come even close to dragging hard parts so I am sure my current body position is fine but at the pace I ride I have no worries or concerns about trying a more aggressive body position and getting equated to it now. Anyways point in case... I freiking love my buell and lets all go riding sometime  | ||
| Ripdog28 |
Jraice, lets get you straight. In every statement you make it is about your experience riding. Well not to be mean but you have crap for experience. I know your 17 like we all were but Listen to our cirticism and advice, dont make excuses as to why you dont need our advice. If you got rid of the 600 because of power well then you should have read more about Torque and less about Horsepower. HP is a by product of TQ and TQ is king of the street. Hence V-twin has more TQ then most 1000 I-4. Again not being mean but you are acting like you dont need our help because you have 6-7k under your belt. Well some of us have over 100k or 10+ years and still get into trouble. Our advice/criticism is to help you in hopes you listen (suck it up if you dont like it). Im an 8 year Vet and now a Sheriff deputy. Best way to get ahead in life and stay alive = listen, dont expain how good you are or that you have the knowledge just listen to advice. If that came off mean then grow up. None of us want you to get hurt. If you ride slow then good but still take advice from your elders even when your not seaking it. | ||
| Jraice |
I fully understand and appreciate what you are saying ripdog I am a beginner and will learn things until the day I am to old to ride a sport bike and move on to a real harley . But I just think some advice such as it took me two years before I even thought about shifting my body weight in the twisties is very subjective and specific to that person and is not the golden rule... And I didnt get rid of the 600 because it was to powerful, I got rid of the 600 for a few reasons (comfort and uniqueness) but the reasons I got rid of it power wise were where the power was. I dont ride triple digits, not that I will never ever do it but I dont do it daily, weekly or monthly like many I4 riders (and buell riders) do. I like having a powerful motorcycle but I dont like having a fast motorcycle. Yes the buell is fast but its just as enjoyable at 50mph as it is at its limits. The R6 just felt so restrained, you could never really rev through the gears, it wasnt happy toying around at legal speeds, even with semi aggressive riding it was very restrained. One fact though that your experience cant deny is the fact that a 1000cc I4 has much more torque and HP then a buell... At only 6,000rpm its already on the same level of torque as the XB12, and with the gearing of these bikes thats similar to a fairly low rev on the buell. As you spin it up it gets well over 100 foot pounds... The buell is what, 88? Again I have lots to learn, I am merely a newbie, I love my buell and I am all ears to all the knowledge I can soak up! | ||
| Saratoga |
Bud, not to disagree with you, but the air cooled monster trumps the R6 in Tq any day of the week. Yes the R6 makes more power, but at a much, much (much) higher rpm as you're aware which does not require as much Tq. An R6 puts about ~60 ft/Lb to the ground IIRC- correct me if I'm wrong. Hp is work done over time... or work/time. There are 2 ways to make more power: 1. Do more work (increase Tq) 2. Do that work faster (increase RPM which decreases time) The Buell (and most large displacement engines) falls into the former category more than the latter. (Message edited by saratoga on March 31, 2009) (Message edited by saratoga on March 31, 2009) | ||
| Jraice |
I said 1000cc I4 not the R6... He said most 1000cc I4's have even less torque then the buell. An R1 puts out the buells max torque at under 6,000rpm. It only goes up from there. Due to gearing, 6,000rpm is really not that much on the R1. | ||
| Ripdog28 |
You may need to look at some other 1000 I4 info here are the # i found the best 2009 yamaha R1 # i found anywhere is 105ft/lbs at 9000 rpms and it is not over 100 till 8k. that was dyno not claimed. Those are sick #s but factor in the extra 54lbs the bike carries and it is not as much. also factor in the chain drive, you do know that a chain and belt displace power differently? All in all this R1 is a race bike that is what the R= race replica. The one thing that upsets me is that you down play the power of our bikes like they are not the fastest or most powerful so you are fine on it, this will get you hurt. Now I have wheelied from a dead stop at 2000rpms No I-4 will wheelie at 2000rpms. Call me a liar but i do wheelies everyday i ride and 2k wheelies are easy. The R1 does not even make power untill 3250rpms. (Message edited by ripdog28 on March 31, 2009) | ||
| Froggy |
Low RPM Torque! | ||
| Paint_shaker |
Thread Jack... "Marines, or Marine wannabes are such a stupid bunch.....just a bunch of retards that are thickheaded and think they're invincible." Couldn't think of a more better bunch protecting the good ole USA!!!! Semper Fi Mac!! Thread jack over, carry on!! | ||
| Fast1075 |
When I bought my Blast, I was told that it was impossible to wheelie one....WRONG!!! but you have to do it ON PURPOSE...  | ||
| Tf1175 |
haha I just watched that clip of the guy falling about 10 feet from the starting line. I replayed him doing a wheelie and falling off the back about 10 times. Thanks for the laugh guys!!! | ||
| Dgrobels |
whoever said the trash about marines needs to come out on November 10th to any VFW or DAV....its stupid ass comments liek that that piss me off. We went to work so you and your family can live comfortable at home in your beds while were out there holding it down so your kids can get on the lil yellow bus everyday without worrying about road side bombs...SEMPER FI....out Lcpl Grobels retired | ||
| Hammer71 |
Pipe down Francis, comment made by a Marine, I took major offense and was ready to take a road trip myself until I read that he was a part of the brotherhood. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Pipe down Francis LOL.... thats the first thing that popped into my head.... | ||
| Xbgeorge |
I believe the Marine comment was made to point out the fact that more Marines are killed in Motorcycle accidents than in battle. The Navy and USMC have came out with new training programs for all riders. Sportbike riders have to attend a sportbike class. Too many young service members come back from deployment, with much deserved full pockets, and buy their dream bike. I'm a Chief in the Navy and would like to give a big Thank You to all our Marines. Whenever my sailors start complaining about ship life, I give them a quick reminder about who is doing the really hard work. If that doesn't shut them up, I make them go chip and paint something. | ||
| Juniorkirk |
I said that trash, but i think i can say it cause I'm a Marine and first hand know how stupid we all are, even myself...... "lets put a whole bunch of mattresses on the ground and jump from 3rd deck onto them just for fun" that kind of $hit, which is stupid/retarded, and once a Marine gets it into his head that he is gonna do it, good luck trying to get him to back down, therefore bringing in the thickheaded/invincible part..... WOW, thought that you guys would see that comment and look at my profile to find out where i lived to come give me a good old fashion haze fest and notice it said CAMP PENDLETON, CA. Or that my occupation is USMC and realize, 'oh, he is one of us' So just calm down lance-coolio, i've already done one deployment, and looking forward to my next one at the end of this year to Afghanistan. Cpl. Denard, Kirk A. 9th Comm Bn B Co. 2006-Present (only 2 years 9 months left) Ooh-Rah (Message edited by juniorkirk on March 31, 2009) | ||
| Juniorkirk |
We had an HM3 just go greenside and got sent too us, and after 3 months he was saying "F*** this $hit, I don't know how you guys can put up will all the stress." Great guy, and that wasn't even the worse part of the corps., it was just Area Maintenance. | ||
| Xbgeorge |
I remember when I was a young dumb sailor. We were working in a giant warehouse, while waiting for our ship to return from deployment. There were these 6' rolls of bubble wrap stacked up. We were climbing up to the forth level, about 40ft high, and jumping down on the wrap. It was a blast and funny as hell. We all love to pop bubble wrap. Imagine the sound of hitting it at speed. | ||
| Juniorkirk |
NICE, i'll have to keep that in mind if i come across any huge rolls of bubble wrap, or even just go buy some myself just for that purpose |
