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Buell_41
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no headlights
no fuel pump cycling
does not crank

battery is good
fuses look good
of the grounds i can get to , they look tight

ideas?
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Switch issue? Both lights and fuel pump are activated at the switch. How about the gauge faces and neutral light, are they coming on?

~SM
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Buell_41
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yes the gauges sweep and the neutral light is on. the engine light is not tho..
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Hmartin
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like a grounding or battery problem, but you might also try swapping your relays. One is for the engine and the other is for the gauges. If the gauges go dead but the engine starts, then you'll know.
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Buell_41
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

which lug is the most common offender?
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Mnrider
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like the ecm,someone just posted a while ago about the same problem.Check for power and ground at the ecm.
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Sparky
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are 3 relays: Key Switch, Ignition, Start. Try swapping those around.

Double check the Ignition, Key Switch, ECM & Accessory fuses.
Check the 30 Amp Main Fuse under the seat.

The Check Engine Light is powered by the Accessory fuse but it gets its power from the ECM. No power to the ECM could be from a bad ground in part of the Starter Interlock (sidestand switch, clutch switch, neutral switch)
or a dirty STOP/RUN switch or a defective Ignition relay or defective Key Switch relay.

Test for +12 VDC on lug 87 of the Ignition Relay with Key ON, Engine STOP/RUN switch to RUN and bike in neutral.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Sounds like the ecm,someone just posted a while ago about the same problem.Check for power and ground at the ecm.




I was thinking that too, but the ECM would cause the no fuel pump part, not the no headlights.
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Buell_41
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

in hunting for a loose ground i started pulling relays and the noticed the starter switch relay was melted around 2 terminals. hopefully an auto zone type place has a replacement. thanks to all for the suggestions! ya'll rock.
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Lonexb
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

same relays that are used in a 2000 dodge 2500. with the cummings turbo diesel.

brian
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