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Boney95
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reading another thread, I was wondering if I've been using O2 sensor safe anti-seize. I just picked some up at auto zone and never thought twice. Here's a link to the stuff that I bought at auto zone.

http://www.autozone.com/selectedZip,53216/initialA ction,accessoryProductDetail/initialR,3294703/shop ping/selectZip.htm

And if I am correct this is the same stuff that is on Permatex's site, but in the 1 oz tube.

http://www.permatex.com/products/motorcycle/motorcycle_lubricants/motorcycle_specialty_lubricants/motorcycle_permatex_anti_seize_lubricant.htm

Looking at Permatex's website, it looks like we should use the Copper Anti-Seize?

If this is the wrong stuff, how and the hell am I going to get it off the cylinder threads?

Note: The stuff that I have is gray/silver in color.

(Message edited by boney95 on February 11, 2009)
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Boney95
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 01:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Couldn't get that last link to go through for some reason. Here it is again.

http://www.permatex.com/products/motorcycle/motorc ycle_lubricants/motorcycle_specialty_lubricants/mo torcycle_permatex_anti_seize_lubricant.htm
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Nillaice
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i would think the silver stuff may have some adverse/corrosive effects on the O2 sensor at operating temps. but i would not think it would even be on the O2 sensor unless you really slopped it on there.
you could pull out the sensor and try to wipe it off the threads. or just wait and see if it throws a trouble code...
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

carb cleaner will remove it.
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Boney95
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This was probably a stupid question then, according to your reply Nill. I was talking about me putting the anti-seize on my plugs, not the o2 sensor. So I'm guessing, o2 safe anti-seize only applies when you're putting it on o2 sensor threads?

What happens if you slop an excessive amount of anti-seize on your plugs, and then when you install some gets in the cylinders themselves. Does it just get burned off? This is were I got the idea that the o2 sensor would get negatively affected by the burn off gases of the anti-seize running by it. ???
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 02:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you need to be concerned about anything that goes through your motor that isn't o2
sensor safe.

Even if you use silicone sealant on your airbox it needs to be o2 sensor safe or the volatile
chemicals in it will foul the sensor, cause false readings, and your bike will run like absolute
crap. That o2 sensor is easy to foul.

The sensor is a pain to change out too.
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Nillaice
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 05:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

'how do i change my muffler bearings' now that's a stupid question

i dunno if the service manual even says to put anti-seize on the plugs. it is good-wrenching to do so, and it can't hurt the O2 sensor to use the copper shtuff.

diablo, sounds like youre speaking from personal experience on this one
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Mmcn49
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I purchased the LC-1 controllers and WB’s from Innovate I asked if it would be better to use the gray High-Temp nickel based never seize or the silver stuff. They said either was fine. I did not ask about copper based.

Several years ago I changed out an o2 on my car and used the silver stuff with no problems.

In my opinion you should always put never seize on spark plug threads. With aluminum heads I think it would be better to use nickel based or the silver stuff, staying away from copper.

Both AutoLite and Champion make spark plug anti-seize. Either can be purchased from Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co. They also sell 18 mm copper and steel spark plug gaskets. Innovate sells o2 bungs but they didn’t include any gaskets.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/anti seize.php

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/spga skets.php
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

when i replaced o2 sensors on all my cars, they came with the silver stuff already on the threads......
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Moosestang
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All the permatex anti-seize are sensor safe, just ask them if you aren't sure. The copper is recommended over the silver stuff, but i've never had a missfire when using the silver so....... Copper is supposed to conduct better and has a higher temp rating.
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Boney95
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Stang, and others!
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