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     Bads1 |
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=35511 | ||
| Spiderman |
$1141.00 what an odd total... | ||
| F_skinner |
Most shocking though is the non-moving infraction for having an improperly mounted license plate. The plate must be at least 18" above the ground, be centrally located, be mounted horizontally, not vertically, be rigidly mounted, and be clearly visible from any angle behind the motorcycle. This means that plates mounted forward of the rear wheel, or on either side of the motorcycle, are in violation of the law. Basically, the plate needs to be in its original location. Also, if a plate is mounted on a pivoting hanger it is in violation of this vehicle code. The first time violation of this code is a fine of $1,141.00. The second infraction costs $2,500.00, the third costs $5,000 and loss of motorcycle license endorsement for 10 years. Does that mean they do not sell Nightsters or other bikes that come with a side mounted plates in FL? | ||
| Bads1 |
I know laws are laws but relocation of plates is kinda silly in some applications. We come and help Daytona's economy and they just wanna make it so you don't come back. Isn't are whole economy bad enough??? Hell we have started to have stiff noise ordinance here in Wisconsin but during the HD 105th Milwaukee and surrounding counties looked the other way. HD people bring alot to our area in a weekend. Is long as they aren't drag racing and cracking the pipes to draw attention to them selves.... no big deal. | ||
| Mbest |
As long as your license plate positioning is legal in the state of current registration, they are not considered to be illegal when you travel out of state. So if you are OK in your own state, your good everywhere. A similar example (on a car) would be that it is legal to operate your Texas registered car, with Texas legal dark tinted windows and W/O a front license plate in California, where dark tint is illegal and front plates are required on California registered vehicles. That's not to say that you can't be pulled over and cited for what ever a peace officer mistakenly "thinks" is illegal. That happens all too often, but it should sort out in court if you know your rights. Of course it should not have to happen that way but often does. Current federal law says that states shall honor other states laws for equipment and registration of motor vehicles visiting their jurisdictions. | ||
| Slaughter |
Many jurisdictions are pushing to increase revenues in any way possible. Cheaper to get bucks from out-of-towners than to raise local taxes. | ||
| Moosestang |
I'm so tired of these ridiculous laws. I wonder what all the custom cars and trucks are going to do with their frenched in, off centered, crooked license plates? I'm sure the nightsters sold in Florida are conforming to the new law somehow. So if the cop lays down on the ground and can't see my plate because of the rear tire, that's a $1,141 in his pocket? I think i'm going to run for state senate and get these laws changed. I don't do wheelies, but my front wheel has left the ground on occassion by accident. I think youtube is to blame for the wheelie fine. (Message edited by moosestang on February 06, 2009) | ||
| Moosestang |
Here's the Australian nightster with a license plate frame off the rear fender. I'm sure they sell them like this in Florida.  | ||
| Fireboltwillie |
i thought vehicle equipment regulations were done at the state level, not a municipality. | ||
| Moosestang |
These are new state laws Willie. | ||
| Fastxb12r |
see its laws like this being enforced here in florida that make me hate the local police enforcing them.Also its the reason I cant wait to move to tennessee in the mountains. | ||
| Paint_shaker |
The guy writing the article needs to lay off the weed..... From Florida State Statues; "316.2085 Riding on motorcycles or mopeds.-- (3) The license tag of a motorcycle or moped must be permanently affixed horizontally to the ground and may not be adjusted or capable of being flipped up." Bottom line, it must read left to right and can not be capable of being flipped up. That's it! Also, Florida DOES have a helmet law... "316.211 Equipment for motorcycle and moped riders.-- ...a person over 21 years of age may operate or ride upon a motorcycle without wearing protective headgear securely fastened upon his or her head if such person is covered by an insurance policy providing for at least $10,000 in medical benefits for injuries incurred as a result of a crash while operating or riding on a motorcycle." Bottom line, you DON'T have to wear a helmet if you can prove you have $10,000 in medical coverage. Interesting thing, a lot of riders without helmets, also DON'T have the proof of insurance... As a general rule of thumb; If you visit Florida and your bike is stock, with no modifications you will not have a problem... If you visit Florida and your bike is NOT stock, you MAY have a problem... Also, if you don't do anything to draw attention to you or your bike, you will MOST LIKELY be left alone. FYI.... Almost all of the LEOs out and about during bike week have been working long hours with little to no time off since before The Daytona 200 and will do so through Bike Week, Spring Break and Black College Reunion (basically from Feb through March/April). (Message edited by paint_shaker on February 06, 2009) | ||
| Ourdee |
Paint, What is your take on the enforcement of 90 degree out of state plates? | ||
| Paint_shaker |
My view is it's a new law and education is my prefered option. Other Florida LEOs may not share my view.... | ||
| Ourdee |
Yep, I know how that works. | ||
| Pokinatcha |
The Nightsters in Florida have the same side mount swivel plate as any one I have ever seen. | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
Last year at Biketoberfest, LEO's shut down US 1 South at I-95 (in front of Rossmeyer's) and split the lanes with cars on one side, bikes on the other. The cars were allowed to pass while each bike was checked for excessive noise, rider's license/endorsement/registration, and proof of insurance if not wearing a helmet. Traffic was backed up for miles. I expect they'll do this again next month, and check license plates this time also. I don't get upset over laws like these- helmet laws are good, license plates need to be visible, and the stoppie/wheelie statutes are a direct result of the morons who ride like idiots on public roads- which does nothing but make things worse for all of us. | ||
| Moosestang |
I don't intentionally do wheelies and have no desire to ever do a stoppie. I do however like to customize my vehicles and don't want anymore laws preventing that, than are absolutely necessary. The penalty should also fit the crime and $1,000 fine for a custom license plate bracket is ridiculous to say the least. By the way, all these LED taillights are technically illegal, as well as your chopped tails. The bike is supposed to have everything on it that came on it from the manufacture. What's the fine if I do a wheelie in my mustang? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEqvTwId85g I'm guessing that would be classified as reckless driving, so is it reckless driving on a bike? Reckless driving is a $500 fine and a criminal offense, so lets throw them in jail for doing a wheelie on a motorcycle. The wheelie law will just cause more kids to run and possibly die, not that I care that much, but that's the way I see it. | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
The future is coming and we have to get used to it... the bike I own with no lights, no signals, no tag, no mirrors, and loud exhaust is my track bike- the one I ride on the street is totally stock. There will be nothing but more stringent rules and more enforcement in the future, so I suggest we start accepting it now. The "glory days" for motorcycles are over. | ||
| Moosestang |
I'll fight it, but to each his own I guess. If we all thought that way, then we'd all be speaking with a British accent. | ||
| Cycleaddict |
+++ 1 moosestang ! | ||
| Caddypat |
just wait till the sainted one and the gang of thugs running dc get a couple more years behind them.you wont fart without a catalitic converter up your arse and if you modify any vechicle you will be messing with national laws comrades.either accept it or make one hell of a ruckus at your ELECTED officals web sites,offices and voting booths.just pls get involved. pat | ||
| Paint_shaker |
The Nightster plate flips forward, not up. This law was mainly aimed at the idiots that have their tags rigged so they can flip them up on the fly so LEO can't read the tag. I'd just as soon skip trailer week... If I were going to the 200, I'd ride the most direct route in to the track, watch the race and leave Daytona for a motel room outside of Volusia County. | ||
| Diablobrian |
+1 Paint_Shaker! | ||
| Oddball |
Thought it folded rearward? Found a pic with it folded. It does fold forward. Those laws are another example of adding of bs laws when ones on the books already cover things. (Message edited by Oddball on February 08, 2009) | ||
| Paint_shaker |
Forward, rearward... still not "up".  But I suppose it won't be long before someone rigs a license plate bracket they can flip forward, rearward of downward on the fly... Rest assured they will change the law to address this. On a side note, I have seen boat companies produce and sell boats with navigational lights rigged in violation of the law. This doesn't exempt the boat or boat operator from complying with the law. Again, I usually took more of an educational approach. Can you say MASSIVE civil liability on the boat company, the dealer who sold the boat, the boat owner and the boat operator. | ||
| The_italian_job |
yeah, but after all this whole conversation, how many of you will need this advice because is coming to Daytona bike week on his bike?????? | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
Im actually going to riding right on by because of bike week. I want nothing to do with it. | ||
| Duff24 |
I'm pretty sure you only have to go by your own state law. No law in Kansas! Now ya see it:  Now ya don't:  (Message edited by duff24 on February 09, 2009) | ||
| Duff24 |
Cabinet hinge and bracket. Are my tags expired? (Message edited by duff24 on February 09, 2009) |
