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Tommy5144
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, i have a 2007 XB9sx and I am debating whether or not to set it up for stunting. I know a couple guys here stunt and I have a few questions if you could help me out. Powerstuntworx makes cage's and 12 oclock bars for our bikes but I hear their cage bolts to the heads? isnt that a little bad if it goes down? also they make a 12 oclock bar that goes to the R but does that bolt up to the S as well? Let me know thanks!!!
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard that some stunters have broke the jug of the bike several times, yes it is very bad if it goes down!!!
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My advice, get a cheap second one for stunting. You do have potential to damage the motor mounts with the stunt cage, so your best bet would be to stunt out a bike that might of been down already. Go nuts then, sprocket the size of the wheel, footpegs on the front axle, 3rd brake, ect : )
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

footpegs on the front axle

whats that used for?
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Sticks
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Birth control. dunno
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For your passenger : )

Best example I can find on short notice:
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Duff24
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've also heard bad things about the cages. They essentially bolt onto your front engine mounts, so yeah if you go down really hard it may bust the motor mount. Haven't heard of losing the whole cylinder, just the motor mount.

All I did on mine is put some big-ass homemade sliders on the rear axle and a 3-foot steel rod (attached to the front motor mount) to protect the sides. That's about it. I've gone down on one side a couple times and broke the steel rod in half before anything else started to break.

Also, the 12 bar won't work the same on the R as it does the S because it attaches to the subframe which is way different between the two.
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Tommy5144
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Duff you have a 12 oclock...did you custom fab yours?
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Duff24
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah I did end up making my own with some square tubing. Didn't really wanna spend $300+ to have one made.....



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Tommy5144
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey just curious Duff....what tire pressure do u run on ur back tire?
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Duff24
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Probably about 10-15 psi.
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Tommy5144
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

jjeeeeeeeez thats like nothing....although i geuss for wheelie's and stuff it makes sense. Im just now getting into like stunting and stuff...i thought i was running low pressure at 28 haha
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Duff24
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah well when I'm riding on the street I'll put more in it like 22 psi or so, but in the parking lots I'll keep it really low for stability.
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Tommy5144
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmm I geuss ill have to lower the pressure if i want to go more towards the stunting world.....do you have a steering damper?
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tommy, are you sure you're ready to be a stunter???
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Tommy5144
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

haha i can already wheelie but thats easy...i want to learn how to do the more advanced stuff u know circle wheelie's highchairs, stoppie's.....all that stuff....im ready just gotta practice haha
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how long have you been riding? have you ever had another bike or previous motorcycle use?
A 2007 is a 'like new' bike and I wouldn't want to risk damage to it. Can anyone guess what the total damage was for the vid?
You can screw up real quick!!!

the sound has been shut of by youtube


(Message edited by ochoa0042 on January 25, 2009)
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Tommy5144
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been ridingggg for not that long...4 years? Before this I had an 05 CBR 600RR.....and yeah the crashing part is always an issue which is why i am still debating on whether or not to set it up for stunting as stated in my initial post. I might just buy a stunt bike for fun so it doesn't matter if i wreck it or not.
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just my concern, thats straight. I was thinking you were some newbie all hopped up with perpetual indulgence

be safe . . . .
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Xxxh00liganxxx
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DONT GET THE LSL SLIDERS....had a set on my 03 xb9s when i looped it on night in orlando....ripped right off and dented the frame lmao
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can anyone guess what the total damage was for the vid?

Are you gonna spill the beans or what?
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Tommy5144
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

haha i am going to guess the damage came out to be aboutttttttt 1 xb9r.....looked totalled to me
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For insurance purposes I'd say totaled, but i've seen far more dramatic wrecks at the
track where the bike and rider were back on the grid that same day.

As long as the head tube didn't come off, fuel tank didn't rupture etc. A little bit of
cosmetic pieces and lights (maybe wheels?) and he'll be stunting that one again in no time.

These Buells are tough bikes!

(Message edited by diablobrian on January 25, 2009)
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ochoa which primary cover did you destroy that time? : )
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Sam_07
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is why i practice on my 50 (with a 120cc 4speed manual clutch).

I crashed it 3 times yesterday pulling 12 o'clockers. Looks like i will be installing a stubby rear caliper hand brake. You can pull the clutch in all you want but the laws of physics still apply!
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ochoa, thank you for posting that.
it's all i needed to give me enuff sense to not try and stunt my ride.
i'm not saying anything about anyone else, it's just that personally, i'm not in the position to risk a wreck. and it's so easy for things to get real hairy, real quick
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

duff, nice fab work, there.
what kinda headers ya got there? and why put that investment on the stunt bike? are you just that good?
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This happened about 5 years ago, it was totaled, something like $6000. But, it didnt mess up the frame or swingarm, just minor scratches and the insurance totaled it. Front end was the worst of course, but the triple tree mount took the brunt of it. Forks and wheels were straight.
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Duff24
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those are gen1 force headers. Had it on my bike with a jardine slip-on while I was still riding it on street, so I just left them on. I've got a crash bar to hopefully protect it. And yeah I'm that good : )
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Duff24
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also practice on my fiddy. Rear handbrake is def nice to have, Sam.
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