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2008xb12scg
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any reason I can't repair a motorcycle tire with a small staple in it? I was told by HD you can't repair motorcycle tires, especially not on a sport bike. Next question-if I have to replace it any reason I shouldn't go with the same Pirelli Diablo tire? BTW it's the rear tire. Thanks.
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Doubled
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only thing that would really concern me about it is whether or not it split any of the cords in the tire. Being just a staple, I would guess not. Also, do you ride like a hooligan or somewhat sanely? Me personally, I would have no issues fixing a tire on my bike that had a staple in it as long as I had a can of Fix-a-Flat with me when I rode. Also, I prefer patches to plugs, but that can and has been argued til all parties were blue in the face.
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Nillaice
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i've seen the plug/patch/replace thread a few times on here

if you got the cash, go for it. piece of mind is the biggest reason, IMO
exactly how small is the staple?

pirelli is a great tire ...or tyre
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Staple like they do cardboard boxes for shipping?, get another pirelli, they are great tires wet or dry.

Staple like for papers (itty bitty staple)?, I (and this is just me) would put some of that tire sealing goop that stops flats before they happen, in a syringe and inject it through the staple holes. Not more than a 1/4 cc. Can't find a needle? Find a diabetic friend. Still can't find one? Start feeding everyone around you candy bars and watch for one of them to get out their kit.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am the kind of person that would change it as soon as I could. Hell I change my tires anyway the moment they hit the wear bar, I know others go way past that, to the point that the tire will stand up on its own. (I got a pic!)

Honestly if the hole is small, and not on the sidewall or near the edge, and its a relatively new tire, perhaps you can plug it and forget about it. To me I rather spend the $200 and not have it in the back of my mind.
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4cammer
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am one of the many that used a rope plug w/no issues, and for a good 700 miles or so. Did not leak any air for the whole time I rode on the repaired tire.

That being said, I was never comfortable on the bike until I had new rubber spooned on.
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Moosestang
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 04:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never had a plug fail on a car tire and i've plugged many. On a motorcycle, i'd probably just replace it.
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Figitt
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plug it... or Ill buy it from you for a fair price.
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Sam_07
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a nail in the center of my tire. Cash was tight so I plugged it and ran it for 4k miles.

Pirelli Diablo Strada's are a great tires!
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Staple looks like one you would use to staple wire to the wall for lack of a better description. My truck tire has had a few repais, never had a problem. Just didn't see why it would be unsafe on a bike..
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Nillaice
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if it's that small, the cables can't be damaged. ...i mean yeah, bro. shit happens. i'll be a pal and pay for shipping to take it off your hands
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

.......so I plugged my sync about a month after I bought my bike brand new.

I replaced the tire at 10,800 miles.

Plug it and go.
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Skinstains
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plug it and forget it.
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2008xb12scg Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008
My truck tire has had a few repais, never had a problem.

Just didn't see why it would be unsafe on a bike..


You don't fall off the truck when the tire goes flat.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, teeps you have a point there...
How long do these tires last? It has about 4 or 5K miles on it. I'm sure the sides are like brand new if you get my drift. But the tire does look brand new.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tire life will vary based on your riding, where you ride, weight, acceleration, braking, turning, tire compound and a ton of other factors. I seem to be inconsistent too, even with the same tires. I got 18k out of one front scorpion sync, and now my current one is worse and has 5k.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I smell a Burn Out in the near future
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Inside patch with no sidewall or obvious cord damage has never been a problem for me. Of course you are looking at $30-$50 to unmount, patch, and remount, so unless the tire has a LOT of life left, it may not make sense.

I only run external plugs / ropes far enough to get home... they require you make the hole pretty big to go in, and they don't have a lot of surface area to stick to (sides of the hole more or less).
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Ulynut
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had 4, yes, 4 plugs in a rear tire and ran it till it was completely bald. I seem to catch a lot of nails, screws, even a tooth once. Never had a problem with a plug in the TREAD part of a tire, but I wouldn't trust one in the sidewall.
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Krueger08xb12s
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plug and play. I've had 2 plug/patches which cost only $60 for the total service and I'm not passive on the throttle.
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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

plug dat bish.

i do all the time. on my scoots.
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Doubled
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

even a tooth once

New way of pulling the kids' teeth?

"Now just wait until I get it up to 30 then go ahead and stick that tooth right in there!!"
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Firebolteric, Thats what I was thinking.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well if I'm gonna replace the damn thing somebody needs to teach me how to do a burn out! Oh I'll figure it out.
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Thatman
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rope plug to get you home. Then they have a new kind of patch, plug patch combo, works very well. I do most of my work myself. I only let them do it when I don't have the tool. I'm strange like that lol.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had one dead center in the back tire of my 12s. I'm a big believer in plugs. Hit it with a plug, then took a drive around the block. Checked pressure. Same. Took a more aggressive ride, using WOT. Check pressure. Same. Went out and rode like a maniac. Check pressure. Same. Did a nasty, 30-45 second long burnout to try to get the plug to fail. No failure. Checked the pressure. Same.

Do what you like, and what makes you feel comfortable, but in my experience, the people that suggest that you plug it and go are the ones that have used plugs, and the ones that say you are faced with certain death are the ones that have not.

Good luck!

R
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4cammer
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Carbon, I do think you may have a point there. On any board that I visit (and there are too many....) I have yet to see anyone claim that a "gummyworm" plug failed, yet I do hear bad experiences w/the mushroom plugs.
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Ulynut
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

New way of pulling the kids teeth?

I used to have a very bad habit of running over road kill. But I'm in recovery now. Its been 3 days since my last indulgence.
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2008xb12scg,

Over the last 30 years, I've plugged many a motorcycle tire. Never had, or heard of one coming out.
90% of the time the customers chose the plug, over new tire or tube.
This was even after disclosure.
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Nomore4s4me
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've plugged many times. When I was younger I would plug and ride as if nothing was different. All out on my R6. My brother did as well. We never had any problems. Now I plug only for winter where the riding is mellow if at all and fresh rubber right around the corner in spring. For total peace of mind though, they get replaced.
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