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Moosestang
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tire foam gets it off. Spray it on thick, let it sit a minute and rinse it off.

Thanks, i'll give that a try.

The article says 07 xb12r?
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Gschuette
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah it look like an 07 with the old circle shape in the center of the cam cover.
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Moosestang
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

double post.

(Message edited by moosestang on December 11, 2008)
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The article says 07 xb12r?

By bad. It is an 07.
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Trac95ker
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glad to see someone racing a buell with more media attention. Welcome and I'm looking foward to following the project. Put Xb9 primary gearing on the 12 along with an XBRR primary chain. If you are hard on the brakes put the 6mm rotor on the front. Even this rotor can warp. Mike in the machine shop at Frederick Buell/HD would be a good person to talk to. He knows his stuff.

If you put the 9 pistons (10.5 to 1 compression)you could do a mild porting job on the heads at the same time. You're just cleaning things up. That will still keep the motor reliable. The ram air intake is good for power also and it looks cool too. They make cams also.
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Trac95ker
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I forgot to mention JET racing (a sponser on this board) makes a velocity stack that is supposed to help with torque. They said the rubber grommet between the throttle body and the airbox actually deforms under load. they do other things too. they sell offset triple trees if you need them.
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K3xb
Posted on Friday, December 12, 2008 - 05:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ram air intake? Could you tell me more about this?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, December 12, 2008 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From what I have been told buy other Buell racers, the ram air isn't a cost effective up grade for what ya get.....

I went with Techno Research tuning on my race bike and I am very happy with the results. I picked up almost 7 ponies just by tuning.

http://www.technoresearch.com/


And Buells do crash VERY well... don't ask how I know.....





almost ready for next season...


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Trac95ker
Posted on Friday, December 12, 2008 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



It brings air more directly into the air filter box. I'm not sure how much of a power increase you will get. There are kits for around $300 bucks. Again, talk to Mike Shultz at Frederick Buell/HD. I don't work for them but Mike has given me good solid advice. They dyno all their stuff too. He could probably give you numbers.

If you did that,you could weld the air inlet hole in the frame which would give you more fuel capacity. I'm not sure if your frame has the hole.

(Message edited by trac95ker on December 12, 2008)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, December 12, 2008 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They picked up a 07, It comes with the hole in the frame plugged already.

It sure would be easy and cheap to do a ram air on a older model
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Dobr24
Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would also open the airbox up? What class are you going to race and with what organization, it may not be legal? Maybe a fully open airbox setup is in order. I assume the 08's have the same airbox as the 07's? plus you can do this for about $3.00 in parts. Also your gonna have to reroute the breather hoses out of the air box. Again simple and cheap. See here http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/115730.html?1116461979

Chris
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Captnemo
Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quote: Not_Purple_S2
One cool topic for your series would be crash protection and "crash durability" of the XB's when properly equiped.
At a recent track day both CaptNemo and I went down. He went down twice and I went down once. The combined total damage to our bikes was less than $150 (shifter-$30, handlebars-$50, and a wind screen $60)
Other bikes went down that weekend sustaining several thousand dollars worth of damage. One of them was a GSXR 600 that went down in the same corner and same speed as I did. I know this because I was chasing him when I went down and he went down the next session after me. The scrape marks left by his bike actually lined up with mine. He was able strip all the busted fairings from his machine and ride the next day but when he took it to the shop his insurance company totaled it out.

No track XB track bike is complete with out frame pucks, axle sliders, and bar ends. I had the first two but unfortunately I didn't have bar ends and my bars caught and bent putting me out for the day. Nemo's bike had a set of DarkHorseMoto's barend sliders which I'm convinced saved his bars in his first crash that weekend. The barend slid and bent absorbing the damage that could have ruined his bar.


Have I mentioned how much fun I had with you and your GF !! I'm hoping for some days at Barber this year.

K3xb,
the factory frame pucks work well, I've crashed both side ( Jennings GP turn 8 left side & turn 9 right side ) with just some minor scuff marks. I've had metal and delrin bar ends, and I'll keep the delrins on the bike. With the metal bar end, I had to replace the clip-on tube, with the delrin, it took all the energy. The Dark Horse Moto rear sliders with the rear stand groove are the ticket, as they are spaced out a little farther from the swing arm.
You'll find that crash parts are cheap, and none of the plastic is over a couple of hundred dollars list price. The OEM pieces are less expensive than aftermarket track plastics.
These bikes are simple to work on and none of the parts are exotic.
Upkeep is cheap as well, I use a Purolator PureOne oil filter ( Less than $6 ) and 20w-50 Amsoil ( $10 a quart ) They aren't rough on tires and use the common 120 / 180 sizes.
The 8 piston caliper is a worthwhile upgrade with some EBC Pads. I changed the pads before the last track trip in early Nov. and wasn't wanting more brakes all day.
Some time with a dremel tool on the inner airbox may do some good with a better filter element for more airflow. If the bike is to be track only, then removing the headlights and using some flexible ducting routed into the airbox may be a cheap project to try.
The downside to working on these bikes is that you have to have 3 sets of tools, SAE, Metric and Torx.
I have a ratcheting screwdriver with magnetic bits. I keep a couple of T-27 bits in the handle and can strip off the plastic in a very short time.

Good luck and keep us apprised of your progress.
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K3xb
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm learning about the tool issue. Are the axles 7/8? I couldn't find anything that big in my town and wound up making a tool from two automotive lug nuts and a stud. It worked but I need the real tool.

We ran the bike on Valley Racing's dyno Saturday. The results were a bit disappointing but there seems to be a manifold leak. I'll fix that and give her another spin. I have just a ton of work to do with Jennings only a month away. EEK!
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if you have a tool kit it should be the big 2 ended nut looking thing in there.

if not, another easy way is to take a spark plug socket. flip it around and put an extention in it from the wrong end. then the hex end of that fits right in the axles.

first time i tried to change a wheel i didnt know there was a tool for it in the kit and ended up using a nice big chrome breather bolt off of a vtwin that happened to be the right size. only other thing i happen to have laying around was about a 5ft piece of square tubing. so of course i welded that on as a handle. talk about a big swing for every turn of the axle lol.
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Krassh
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Axle Tool from Al at American Sport Bike.

http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/9153.html
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K3xb
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Krassh.
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