| Author | Message | ||
     Damnut |
easier to run your mouth on an internet forum than it is in real life. | ||
| Jos51700 |
I met Sonny Barger once while he was getting a stator in his blue Road King at the shop. Very nice guy. His wife sent us all Cave Creek shirts when they got home. (I got a small, even though I'm 6'3") They just don't want to get hassled, just like anyone else. Other than being Hell's Angels, they're just regular people, eat sleep and ride.... Sonny rode a very nondescript teal blue 'King (With Thunderheader, of course). The only thing noteworthy about it was an engraved plate on the dash, talking about how it was gift from the Hell's Angels to Sonny. Working on an HA bike is kind of nerve-wracking, though. Some won't let you test ride their bikes, so you do some work, then he rides it, and if it's not better, he tries to describe it to you... Riding an HA bike without the patches is EXTREMELY intimidating. They'll kick your ass for that, if they don't KNOW that you have permission to be riding it. It's an experience when they come to town, for sure. Not so much the HA's, but the way the public reacts to them. | ||
| Point_doc |
One of the nicest guys I have met while riding is a member; he, his wife and friends are extremely hospitable. This guy is in his 60's, but can ride his XB9 on our back road twists like no other!! He has his bagger and other bikes and has pics of his buds and there rides on his garage wall. From time to time he shows me other pics and tells stories, just a great guy. Calls me up to check on me, to make sure me and my family are doing well. I am certain that there are exceptions on both ends of the spectrum, but life has a way of changing this. (Message edited by point_doc on November 19, 2008) | ||
| Vortec57 |
Years ago I worked at a restaurant just off the interstate on a major route to Strugis. A large group of HA's stopped in one day for lunch, filling our parking lot and sidewalk with their bikes. Low man on the totem pole (dishwahser) the management decided to have me tell them to move the bikes. I went out chatted a bit about the trip up and the impressive chrome on the bikes. In closing I told them that the manager wanted their bikes moved, but was too chicken shit to tell them and sent me. Told them I as getting off for the day and didn't much care if they moved or not. By the time I got clocked out and to my truck the bikes were moved. Working parts counter I encounter HA, Sons and Banditios on a regular basis around here. Its all about how you hold yourself and as stated, respect given usually gets it back for yourself | ||
| Oxygen151 |
That is great to hear point_doc. As intimidating as some of those guys are, it all boils down to respect. I am only 21, so I know quite a few of you guys are all older than me and have more riding experience than I do ,and I respect that. Giving people the respect they deserve goes a long way in their books. It makes you and your Buell look good.  | ||
| Skinstains |
9m9knight, it's good to see that you're fired up. But as Hammer said, you aint there yet. Many a tough guy couldn't hang in SOI not to mention being considered for Recon. Cold open water, night jumps. Plus, to make it anywhere in Recon/MARSOC wich I believe has been further absorbed into SOCOM as these units work almost exclusively with delta nowadays, a big mouth is definatly not an asset, it's a liability. As for the motorcycle clubs...it sounds like you are joining a club with a tough guy image (why) but they don't ride bikes they play with guns and shower together instead. I'm not trying to discourage you, nor am I trying to poke fun at you. I'm simply showing you another view of the same picture. Remember, 90% of everything is between the ears and all the rest is only 10%. Did you know that the Coast Guard has some really challenging mos' ? They don't come with the same image of the USMC but (some of) those guys are just as hard-core if not harder but save lives instead of taking them. Time for me to shut up. Good luck in the USMC. (Message edited by skinstains on November 19, 2008) | ||
| Jos51700 |
I've yet to meet a (legit) loud-mouthed Marine.... | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Lived two houses down from a bad name club. Great neighbours, bring produce over, help with repairs, take all the kids out. SWAT showed up for a house in between: that got interesting. Show respect. Be aware and upfront, "thanks for the car offer. Can you get papers?" Laughs and says a few weeks. Say sorry, no deal. Don't get into a position where you owe them. Don't ever underestimate them. And all the combat vets I've met would rather talk about growing strawberries or something somebody else did. | ||
| Bishopjb1124 |
9m9knight you have got a lot to learn about being a Marine. If the MSgt you are talking about is a recruiter just remember they will tell you just about anything to get you to sign up. MARSOC has absorbed Force as many other people have stated. Best thing to do is learn the histories customs and courtesies that has kept our beloved Corps alive for 233 years. Know what it means to be a Marine (it is not just about being a badass) it is about what this country was founded on and what we have fought for. Lieutenant General Victor H. Brute Krulak said it best when he wrote, the United States does not need a Marine Corps the United States wants a Marine Corps. Good luck in all of your endeavors and Semper Fi. Oh by they way I have been a Marine for 10 years, so ask me why I care? | ||
| Preybird1 |
Respect absolutely and do not play around with these guys, My girlfriends dad is one of these choice guys, He is great to party with but he\they dont mess around, Man he gives me so much crap about my buell. Hes always like hey bring that bike to our meeting and well fix back to a sporster | ||
| P_squared |
Was gonna post, then decided not to, then decided I would. Meh. For OMG's, if you have to interact with them, treat them how you'd like to be treated. It's seemed to work pretty well for me. As for 9m9 & his Force aspirations, you got a LOT of learning & earning to do my friend before you get an 8654 MOS in your SRB. Being a physical stud isn't all of it, that will only get your foot in the door. Your brains, attitude & fortitude are what will get you invited inside. There are screenings for a reason. We never wanted loudmouth braggarts and/or badgehunters in my unit. Disclaimer: I was NOT in Force Recon. I just happened to work a lot with them. | ||
| Spdkls |
we have an AOA group down here. i've met a few. for the most part they are just a bunch of good ol boys, just don't get on their bad side. 9m9knight-just remember, just because you can lift the gym doesn't automatically qualify you for spec ops. one of my friends graduated as a seal. when he qualified to get in, it was the bare minimum. he's was only 5'8 about 160. now he's about 175, and can still only do about 100 pushups, but i wouldn't want to fight him. | ||
| M1combat |
"Id mess with him. or at least show im not intimidated." I don't think you know what the meaning of being messed with or intimidated is. | ||
| Oxygen151 |
Glad some true Marines chimed in on this one. | ||
| Ratyson |
screw that Im Military in process of USMC Force Recon. No im not Recon yet and im Not a Marine yet but EVERYONE knows I will be....Soon as I get out of High School, Easy there Sally.. That last statement you have there negates everything before it. Respect is earned through hard work and the collection of wisdom. Stating that you are Force Recon before you are even out of high school is sort of a spit in the face of any Force Recon members that have walked before you. I hope you succeed in your endeavors and become the man you want to be... but you are nowhere near it yet. } | ||
| Ferrisbuellersdayoff |
easier to run your mouth on an internet forum than it is in real life. I was just thinking that. That being said, 9m9knight, go for it. Challenge one of those BAMFs. And have someone send me an email to tell me which hospital or funeral home to pay my respects at. My ol' man is retired MC member for a smaller group. I went to a few BBQs and hung with them, most were friendly guys, others were strapped to the hilt! And those guys were USMC; Active and Retired. | ||
| Puddlepirate |
Did you know that the Coast Guard has some really challenging mos' ? They don't come with the same image of the USMC but (some of) those guys are just as hard-core if not harder but save lives instead of taking them.} As a sidenote, a lot of our guys (USCG) do joint training at Camp Lejeune with the Marines there. Some of our toughest Tactical Response Boat schools are located there, and the Marines assist with instructing. They've also recently come up with a program where 2 enlisted and 2 officers per year will attend BUDS, and then do up to 7 years follow on with SEAL teams. Our guys still aren't considered "Special Forces", but a lot of the training for those programs mirrors the SF training. 9m9, there is no point to playing with fire, just to prove you're tough. In the long run, nobody gives a crap. You may be the toughest guy out there, but when you get killed for trying to be a tough guy, you still lose. No need to be scared, but no need to try to piss someone off just to prove you're tough. | ||
| Court |
The quiet guys were the ones I kept a close eye on when I was in the USMC. Court Semper Fi | ||
| 9m9knight |
Hmmm...I guess I got jumped. Well lets see, I'v heard lots of people's opinions, negative, some positive. Maybe you get the wrong picture. I stand for justice, and when, what sounds like someone is talking about a Gang guy who can potentially kill you. I look at that as a negative. Gang people are opposite of what I stand for they stand for crime, drugs, disrespect. I try to make this a better comunity.Not what I grew up with. And for all those who say how hard it is to be a Marine, Maybe for you...you don't know me. out of the 500 enlisted poolies...why did I stand out, not because I'm a loud mouth, not because I disrespect anyone but because of my high energy hunger for competition, ambition, courtesy, and politeness, so sorry about the miss communication but read the first post...am I wrong? And about being a loud mouth, I know when and where to be a loud mouth.When Sgt Major of the Marine Corp came to Sioux Falls, He had speakers with him, and guess what all of them even admmited they were self centered, selfish, over bearing. I'll live my life they way I want too, and thats on the edge. I'm not stupid, Marine Corp is a big change, But get real you don't turn into some zombie, your still the same person change little physically, more confidence, and more pride and belonging. would you like to see what I look like maybe? (Message edited by 9m9knight on November 19, 2008) | ||
| P_squared |
9m9, you may want to really THINK about what you posted originally & what you just posted again. Here's a homework assignment for you: 1) What's the attrition rate of USMC boot camp? 2) What's the attrition rate of SOI? 3) What's the attrition rate of ARC/BRC? 4) What's the attrition rate of Airborne? 5) What's the attrition rate of Ranger? 6) What's the attrition rate of Combat Dive school? 7) What's the attrition rate of SERE? 8) What's the attrition rate of MFF? 9) What's the attrition rate of BN Recon screening/selection/RIP? 10) What's the attrtion rate of Force Recon/MARSOC/SOCOM screening/selection/RIP? You're perceived "standing" in a pool of 500 other poolies when compared against the above isn't all that impressive to be honest. The first thing it may behoove you to learn before you continue on down this path is that some of the folks who've commented on this thread in regards to your comments have already walked this road in the USMC. When/if you make it through all of the above, feel free to come back & say "I told you so." Until then, I'd appreciate a little less "tough guy" talk from a poolie who hasn't earned the title. It is the deeds, not the words. It is the man in the ring. | ||
| Bombardier |
You are right. We do not know you. But, by and large we have seen a lot of 'you' before. And, despite the geographical diversity of this membership, the responses you have received are almost identical in nature if not in content. If we did not care to help you we would have said to go and get in his face. But we didn't. We took the time to try and help you down the road of life to achieve what you want. The old saying of an old mans head on young shoulders certainly comes to mind here. By all means strive for the very best at all times. You have to bear in mind that experience is exactly that - and the majority of those who have experienced have imparted their words of wisdom onto you because they care. It's how you receive and what you do with this gift that will decide your future. I wish you well. | ||
| Bishopjb1124 |
9m once again you perception is off, and you are not reading what people are trying to tell you nicely, so here it is in plain english for you. YOU HAVE A LOT OF MENTAL MATURING TO DO IN LIFE. Answer me this can you handle seeing one of your best friends gettin his head shot off? Can you handle loosing numerous friends? It is easy to yes to this simple question but some of the biggest talkers I have seen in my experience were the first ones I had to search for when bullets started whizzing by over head. Just some food for thought. I sent you a PM and you are more than welcome to send me any questions regarding your future and what may lie ahead, and if you want I can send you my cell number also. In regards to seeing you, I am currently 6 ft 175 lbs and can out PT pretty much anyone in my unit, but this not make me the greatest person there. It is about what you do and how you do it. Look up the word initiative and then when/if you get through the rigors of entry level training it will help you suceed greatly as a Marine and as a person in general. | ||
| Chadr81 |
Man, poolies are always good for a good laugh. Makes me think back to those times. Semper Fi til I die - Carry on! | ||
| Bombardier |
Why is it us grunts go for the grunty bike? We could start our own Private Military Company with the talent on this board. | ||
| Court |
>>>>We could start our own Private Military Company with the talent on this board. Actually we have a few folks here who are some of the top military and private civilian mercenaries in the world. They are very quiet. We also have hear, although you'll never hear about it, the man who was #1 on the Hamas "kill list" and who went to one of their safe houses in the wee hours of the night, kicked in the door and asked "someone looking for me?". My USMC active duty was during the Viet Nam era and I met some folks who, to this day, remain some of the most impressive folks I've met in my life. I too had a quest for competition and was pretty much a hard body when I entered boot camp. I'd been on a fill ride gymnastics scholarship and found the PT, impossible to some, to be "fun". I got great memories reading the pullup/pushup/crunch numbers above. I got a bit of a reputation in the USMC for being "kinda crazy" after a little incident at San Onefre Range in the middle of the night during infiltration maneuvers. Sometimes you have to prove what you are capable of. Age teaches you to meter how much you transmit. . . . and after reading that " Gang people are opposite of what I stand for they stand for crime, drugs, disrespect. " . . I laughed and hope you never run into a Shriners Parade. I'm old, tired and worn out now but have always kinda lived my live on the edge. I just never telegraphed my confidence in advance. It's often times better to prove our skills than buy a billboard. Semper Fi | ||
| Paint_shaker |
As for the original post, Most 1% M/C members won't mess with you just for riding on the same road as them. Most, when by themselves, will not mess with you unless given a reason. Of course there are always exceptions, but nearly all of the 1% M/C Gangs prefer NOT to have the attention of John Q Law (especially for petty crap). As for 9m, You are correct I don't know you... But I know people just like you. Lot of mouth, lot of muscle, lot of trouble for themselves. The mind is the most dangerous weapon you possess. In my 15 years of LE I rarely have had to lay my hands on anyone. But I know LEOs that are like you and it seems they always going hands on with someone.... Good luck in boot camp. If boot camp doesn't help temper your mindset, the Fleet most certainly will. Remind me to tell you about the Florida Marine Patrol (State Po-Po on the water)recruit with an attitude simular to yours... | ||
| Patrickmitchell |
+1 Court. I had 7 years of active duty as a Marine Infantry Officer. The guys who were quiet turned out to be the most dangerous/effective. The Force community is a tight knit bunch. They pick you. Having a 300 pft, and being fit does not guarantee admittance to to the club. 9m9knight, you would do well to go to boot camp and do the best you can. Marines tend to reward those who excel. Announcing that you intend to become a RECON Marine, on your first day of boot camp, is going to make for a few VERY long weeks. You may find the the competition at your high school pales in comparison to those already on active duty. (Message edited by PatrickMitchell on November 20, 2008) | ||
| 9m9knight |
How about this I shut up now, but when I come back after basic Ill report in and Months later ill tell you weather I made Recon. | ||
| P_squared |
9m9, that's a good start. The most succinct advice any of us can give you at this point is this: Keep your mouth shut. Keep your eyes open. Keep your ears open. Keep your brain "on." | ||
| Wantxbr |
I worked with Hells Angels before and their nothing like you'd expect. They have their tough outer shell but once they know you they ease up and have a good time like the rest. Many are really good people, but there are also the ones that have the stereotypical Biker attitude. Let them lead and they'll be happy |
