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     Forza |
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| Tripper |
your camera needs the color balance adjusted. It turned your bike into a 2-tone. | ||
| Dynarider |
Those look pretty flimsy, dont know how well they would hold up in an actual crash. Looks like you would stand a good chance of bending your frame mounting bracket. | ||
| Daves |
God, here I go agreeing with Dyna! I can't see how those would hold up in a crash. Ride to the edge! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) | ||
| M1combat |
Not to mention what would happen to your knees in a head-on impact... I found some carbon fiber covers for the frame spars that both look nice and seem like they would get the job done quite well. They also had a cover for the oil reservoir side of the swingarm. That piece also had a teflon (I believe) button on it that would be like a frame slider. I found the site by doing a search for "XB12R race" on Google. They also had frame sliders that were more like these, but look a bit shorter. It looked like they would attack in the same fashion but looked to be a bit more sturdy. I would still be afraid of bending the mount point with those though so I think I'll go with the carbon fiber covers. | ||
| Bads1 |
M1 that would be trojan or American sportbike. | ||
| Rick_a |
I think the hot setup is low profile knee pucks. Looks like crap but I'm sure works best. | ||
| Forza |
I agree with all your comments. I don't think these sliders would do much protection. I found them on line (www.satoracing.com) | ||
| Daves |
I have 2 sets of frame protectors left. After they are gone you'll have to buy direct from Trojan and pay the frt from England. Who wants em? Ride to the edge! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) | ||
| Dynarider |
I think the hot setup is low profile knee pucks. Looks like crap but I'm sure works best. Actually I have seen a few pics & they dont look too bad. easily replaceable & cheap as hell. | ||
| Coolice |
Hey Dyna do you have any pics of the knee puck setups? That sounds like a great idea and their profile is lower on the frame | ||
| Dynarider |
Dont have any saved on my hard drive, but I can look around. I know they are out there. They just used some velcro on the frame & slap the puck on. A big enough puck should spread the impact load out & I would think no dents happen. | ||
| Bads1 |
Dyna I have some of the BUELL pucks. I wonder how they would work. I'm going to have to check that out. | ||
| Dynarider |
probably look pretty cool. I also saw some of those tire tread looking deals that had been attached there & it looked pretty wild as well. Big ole hunk of double sided tape, slap some velcro on & good to go. You can even get pucks made up for different holiday seasons, sporting events, etc. Hell of a lot cheaper than the trojan horse deals..although those do look nice..but at least with the pucks if you go down, you havent just trashed $350 worth of carbon fiber. Throw on another $10 or whatever they cost knee puck & rock & roll. | ||
| Dynarider |
These are just as useless as the ones above. Usually asb has some pretty cool stuff, but I really think these are just so wrong.  | ||
| Dynarider |
These ones are interesting, & with the replaceable nylon may actually work well.   | ||
| Dynarider |
And for some reason I like the idea of this one as a swingarm protector.  | ||
| M1combat |
Daves, waddya want for em? BTW, No chicken strips left  . edited by m1combat on December 02, 2003 | ||
| Daves |
Which style? I have the regular ones and the ones Dyna posted above, the red/black ones with the nylon sliders. Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) | ||
| Sparky |
I tried fitting the Buell knee pucks but they have a warp to them that doesn't quite fit the contour at the frame. I wonder if they could be heated to change their shape. On the other hand why doesn't Buell offer something like this as an accessory so we don't have to mickey mouse a kludge? | ||
| Bads1 |
Sparky can you sand them or put a angle grinder to them??? | ||
| Daves |
That has been brought up and will be brought up again next month in Orlando. Ride to the edge! We need frame sliders! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) | ||
| Fbolt |
I like the look of (the original posted pic) those. They would be more protective of any of the above-mentioned, to include velcro/dble taped knee pucks. The cf frame covers seem like they would disintegrate along with those "bungs". I emailed them with a request for more info. Cost is $100 a set. | ||
| Rick_a |
Properly implemented knee pucks would spread the load over a wider area in the event of a crash instead of shock loading some spindly little bolts and brackets. That and the pucks have a huge amount of material to grind away as well. Those look like even a low speed highside would destroy 'em. I've looked at a lot of crashed bikes. The pucks would also protect the frame from the impact of a bent handlebar...something conventional sliders can't do. That's my opinion...and I'm of the mentality that s**t happens...and looking pretty takes a big back seat to practicality. | ||
| Trojan |
The carbon fibre frame protectors won't disintergrate as suggested, because they are backed by layers of kevlar which is much more resistant to damage and heat than carbon fibre. In an extremely high speed slide it could conceivable wear through, but in that event you are probably looking at a total loss anyway. The most common damage to the XB frames seems to come from people either falling off at relatively low speed, or the bike simply 'walking' off the sidestand. The carbon protectors will certainly save your frame in this respect without risking bending the frame bracketry. | ||
| Sparky |
Bads1, grinding the Buell pucks properly would necessitate separating the puck from the flexible velcro covered backing, grinding as required and rebonding the backing material. By the time I got done with the first step, I'll betcha they would be trash.  IMO, I'd rather have frame sliders that look like knee pucks instead of the other way around. | ||
| Fbolt |
I see your point about more material to grind away with the pucks...I just don't trust dble sided tape or velcro to keep the other items in place. To me, it seems that the impact and following drag along the road, gravel, or whatever surface, would knock off the other sliders. However, I also see the point of the "stem" breaking off on the sato sliders. Aye Caramba~what to do? | ||
| Bads1 |
Sparky I looked at them and you were right.Damn they would of looked ok too. | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
Could epoxy glue the puck. But removing it would not be fun. | ||
| Trojan |
The best way to attach the full length sliders is with silicone sealant. It does not degrade like double sided tape with heat. Ours have been on for a year now with no sign of coming loose. We also had a customer recently who slid down the road after hitting some diesel oil. He suffered no damage to the frame and the sliders stayed on. He only needed to replace the right side slider and turn signals.  | ||
| Captainplanet |
Trojan, Do you have any pics of the slider after the customer slide down the road? That would be pretty helpful in making a decision on which product to buy. | ||
| Fbolt |
I'll order the sato sliders, they emailed me with a no hassle return guarantee. | ||
| Austinrider |
I have a friend who races a 12R. He has the Carbonfiber frame sliders. He did a high side at a race and the bike slide quite a ways. I havent gotten a deffinitive measurement, but it was done the back straightaway at Daytona (like I know what that is, just relaying info). I saw what the CF sliders looked like afterwards. They did eventually grind through and allow a minor portion of the tank to get scrapped up. Know what the beauty is of this - put a new CF Frame slider on and you cant see the damage. He was actually impressed with how well they held up. I have the CF frame sliders on my XB9S now after seeing how well his held up - considering the crash and the speed - Im impressed. Btw.. knucklehead is fine after the crash - just trashed his leathers a little bit | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Did he void his warranty? | ||
| M1combat |
LOL  |
