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Gemini
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 04:43 pm: | 
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ah, thanks for the clarification. |
Id073897
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 05:25 pm: |
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the only thing that i know that is missing in the closed loop one is that afv is also applied.
It's not missing, because it's not applied. CL is adjusted via EGO correction.
Then why does it give poor results for our Buells?
Garbage in - garbage out. The logfile does not include enough information to fully meet the MLV requirements. This is most obvious in the missing accel/decel signals, that are essential to correctly skip all records not in scope due to accel/decel conditions.
Regards,
Gunter |
Skully
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 05:47 pm: |
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Please update!
When I download the file listed above, what do I do with it?
Garbage in - garbage out. The logfile does not include enough information to fully meet the MLV requirements.
Does this mean that not enough data was taken during that run or does the link above solve this?
Thanks,
Keith |
Typeone
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 05:58 pm: |
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Skully, I didn't mean to confuse this thread by posting the updated utility.
Please read my post only as an FYI to those that use the utility. If you log in binary, you will need to convert the .bin file to .msl so MLV can read it. That new link is to the improved converter tool if you do this work on a PC.
I'll let Gunter respond to the other question even though I know what he means. (in essence, your log must be done correctly to get good results. but theres more to it) |
Gemini
| | Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 08:12 am: |
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i stand correctd based on my test this morning, afv is NOT factored in closed loop operation.
this is how i tested it. drove bike till warm. reset afv to 100. started bike and allowed to idle with closed loop idle enabled. monitored ego. was about 114-119. set afv to 130 and restarted bike in idle. ego was still at 114-119. if my theory was right, ego should have been down around 84-89.
so word up to Gunter.
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Skully
| | Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 08:45 am: |
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I called myself looking for a way to "lock" the AFV. Can someone tell me how to navigate to this option?
Thanks,
Keith |
Typeone
| | Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 09:02 am: |
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Skully, to 'lock' the AFV, navigate to the 'Other Maps' tab, in the 'AFV' pane you plug in 100 max./100 min.
use the pane in the lower left to input and burn each value. |
Ferocity02
| | Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 09:03 pm: |
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So if I'm reading everyone's comments correctly, it seems the "right" way to go about the AFV is tune the bike without it and keep it locked indefinitely, or, set the AFR in the closed loop learn areas in MLV to something even leaner, like 15, 15.5? Maybe this will help the AFV to keep the AFR around 14.7 at a value of 100?
Who knows, seems like the only way to do this remotely correct is widebands and a dyno.
Btw, my AFV is locked at 95 right now and the bike runs well, but the riding conditions here don't change much.
(Message edited by ferocity02 on October 24, 2008) |
Moosestang
| | Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 09:17 pm: |
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Keeping the AFV locked is probably a bad idea. What if you get a intake leak and the bike starts to run way to lean. At least with the AFV enabled it could add more fuel and hopefully save the motor. Same thing with a clogged fuel injector or injectors.
maybe I don't understand how it works. |
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