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Trusty748
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone know of any problems that using the handlebar kill switch all the time might cause? I use it all the time, being much easier to get to than the ignition switch on my 9S. Just curious...
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Dbird29
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's what it is designed to do. I don't think it will hurt, lots better than trying to fumble for the ignition key.
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use the kill switch exclusivly to shut down my xb9r.
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Court
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Related point:

MILK CRATE: "know they machinery" - Some motorcycles, Buell and Ducati in 1998 for instance use PRECISELY the same C.E.V. controls.

One the BUELL the bike os "OFF IN THE REAR POSITION",

On DUCATI, the bike is "OFF IN THE FORWARD POSITION".

Handy Courtmonic: FORWARD = GO on all Buells.

Questions?
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court - Except mine... On my XB12R the switch is designed so that with a quick sweep forward the bike dies. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly... But I don't think I am. I'll check if you would like.
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Kaese
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I stopped using my kill switch because it shut down the fan. I use the key exclusively now.
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Geofg
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

I stopped using my kill switch because it shut down the fan.



That is Not Normaltm. You may want to get that checked.

-Geof
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the only thing wrong with using the handlebar mounted stop switch, is that you will very often see folks fueling the bike, or parking, and going in for coffee with the engine stopped and the key and headlight are both left on. mostly see this with the dyna glides and vrods where the key is a bitch to reach.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They have a kill switch? Just kidding but I use the key. That way everything is shut off.

Fullpower, on a XB you have to take the key out of the ignition to unlock the gas cap.

M1,
You are correct, the kill switch on the XB is forward=off Back=run.

Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fullpower... Not EXACTLY... I got two keys w/ mine :).

Daves... Papers are N/E-bound. Probably Wednesday. I forgot to put your name on them though...
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

THERE IS A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH USING THE KILL SWITCH......















IT TURNS THE BIKE OFF THEN THERE IS NO MORE FUN


god I make myself laugh
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Tripper
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It CAN be fun. Turn the kill switch off while cruising, turn it back on and BLAMMO! The cage next to you will think he's in a drive-by-shooting zone.


Also fun to do to riding buddies on a boring cruise.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Also fun to do to riding buddies on a boring cruise.
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Ilikehotchicks
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

when the hd guy went over the bike check list he exclusivly said to use kill switch, just when you turn it back on you want to wait for the fuel pump noise to finishe before you start it.
i use the switch then shut the key off.
also in msf they want you to use the kill switch so your used to it for when/if you lay the bike down then you already know to hit the kill switch.
just use it, thats what its for also good to have your reflexes set to it.
reuben
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ILHC... I think the noise is the butterfly valve running through it's range of motion.
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Ilikehotchicks
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah, whatever it is they said to wait for it to stop, the hd guy told me that its the computer running though a check list.
eather way its prob a good idea to use kill switch, at least thats what msf told me.
reuben
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dont use the switch. They tend not be the highest quality parts ever produced..this goes for all bikes & the contacts can wear out prematurely & then you end up with a bike that wont start because of it. Pain in the butt to replace too. Easier to just turn the key. On the Harley big twins its super ez because of key switch location, but even on some Dynas, the V-rods & the Buells its no problem to just turn the key.
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Blublak
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 03:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow Dyna, I've never had a bikes' kill switch go bad on me from normal use. Has that happened to you before? I've had them get fouled due to water, wreck, paint.. but not normal use. As for my Harley, I use both the switch and and the ignition.. But then, I do that with the Buell as well..

Just curious..

Later,
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Davefl
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Kill switch on my '78 BMW still works fine after some 25 years of use. Must be a fluke because motorcycles have switches of such low quality.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well Dyna did run at Battle Tracks.
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Dynarider
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The kill switch on my 85 Kawi 550 LTD took a dump & the one on my 88 1100 Yammy would stick in the off position.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am kinda with dyna on this

god help me!!!!

its not that I think they are low quality or anything I just don't trust lil electrical contacts and such. Its not that I am paranoid but....they are out to get me!!!!!

Maybe I am just rebellious....I never use the switch....just something else to do and to worry about and then turn it on then turn the key then hit the start button......

damn I am a lazy SOB ain't I....oh well now I need to lay down that is hard work typing all this stuff
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you took my MSF class you would always shut the bike off first using the "engine cutoff switch". If you didn't comply I would send you home. We don't have kill switches!!
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Austinrider
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a problem with my kill switch. Twice now while talking to my friends at stop lights I have accidentally turned my bike off as the light turns green.
With a D&D Exhaust (please, take the D&D argument someplace else) you really notice it when the bike gets turned off.

The other one I hate is the damn switch in the kickstand. Stopped due to a train crossing one time. Turn off the bike, put on the kick stand and wait. Train passes, turn on bike, go into first gear and. Clunk Clunk. Bike dies, start it up and try again. Clunk Clunk bike dies. Figure WTF, turn it on, rev the piss out of it to make sure fuel is flowing, dead agian. Push bike to the side of the road to let traffic bye. Realize kick stand is not all the way up. I hate that switch more than the kill switch.

-- Wow, 4pm Im outta here and going home.

Peace!

--AustinRider
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Kaese
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:
I stopped using my kill switch because it shut down the fan.
That is Not Normaltm. You may want to get that checked.

Well, the check engine light illuminated after about 10 min of riding every time I rode the bike. I was more concerned with the Check Engine Light; I didn’t really notice the fan was no longer running. It also was kind of cool day, so I chalked it up to the cold day. Found out later the fan is supposed to turn on after about 10 miles of riding. I checked the fuse and it was not blown. Put it back in and the next time I rode it the fan functioned, and no Check Engine Light. I guess the fuse had worked itself almost loose and will have the backyard fix of placing cardboard over the top of the fuses, so they won’t work loose.


edited by kaese on November 18, 2003
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 03:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I prefer to lug mine out of breath. Holding both breaks firmly, and the bike in any gear, just dump the clutch. It'll jerk you around a little bit and impress your riding buddies with your new method.

I've also found that near the end of one of those long riding days a sweet little low-sider will shut her right down too.

Now, these methods won't work well for most of you and you should probably avoid them, but I've found them most effective. Take care.

Greg
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Tripper
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

a sweet little low-sider will shut her right down



not on the carbureted bikes. Good advice for an X1. Then you are rid of all that excess bodywork.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're supposed to turn the bike off?
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oops. My bad.
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Geofg
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kaese,

Reseating the fuse took care of it, eh? Cool deal. Glad to hear it was such an easy fix.

-Geof
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Fatpony
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Never have had any prob with kill switch on bars of either my X-1 or XB. But.... the sidestand switch on XB gave me fits until it got me stuck in middle of nowhere, with no tools or cell. So I pulled wires out at switch, looked like a piss poor connection anyway, and found a magazine in ditch, removed staple from mag, and shorted connection at plug. Been fine for last 200 miles/last month. switch
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