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Ochoa0042
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have let it down again! And have to replace the primary cover, I will be on my 4th after I replace it.

I had a feeling that I should of bought a powers-stunt-worx cage for this firebolt a long time ago, but never had that extra push out the door.... thats next on my list for sure! has anyone personally used a powers cage?

for the mean time...
What Do You Have As Protection?
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Krueger08xb12s
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just curious, how much is a primary cover? Man you're riding hard! Do they make a stickier tire for you?
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

primary cover, $220 +tax.... x4=$880+tax, ouch!!!

powers cage ~$400 +fee's


I see this situation like my stovetop oven... the oven doesn't start on its own: you need a lighter to light it because the sparker-thingy is broken.... well to replace the sparker is $30, but instead we buy lighters every month and have spent well over $30....


.....if only I knew ahead of time
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How the hell do you need a new primary cover? It's rare to need one after a wreck, but hell you have gone through 4? If you are wrecking hard enough to do that kind of damage, the cage is just going to move that damage. Instead of primary covers, you will need motor mounts, possibly frame.

Again, what the hell you doing? Are you trying to stunt it?
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Ekass13
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dude I feel bad for your bike. Please explain why you needed/need new primary cover....
What kind of crashes are you getting into?
Do you drink and drive? Cause thats not cool.
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Deadduck
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 04:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just out of experience, the shifter nut will cause the primary cover to mushroom where it screws in. I've been working on a way to cover the bolt with a slider and distribute the stress around more points than that one.
I have only had to replace 1 cover so far. It's kinda like the shifter lever gets hung into whatever its sliding on and rips the bolt out of the hole.
I'll continue working on it and get back to you when I have it figured out, I'm gonna need someone to test it out and you appear to be the perfect candidate.
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Swordsman
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine has scuffs where the shifter folded into it..... and then broke. Never bothered replacing though.

Frame pucks, sturdier aftermarket pegs, bar sliders. No other part of my bike makes contact with the ground any more (not even my front and rear axle sliders). The passenger pegs (on the Ss) keep the rear from touching down.

~SM

(Message edited by Swordsman on October 10, 2008)
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Moosestang
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Frame pucks, sturdier aftermarket pegs, bar sliders. No other part of my bike makes contact with the ground any more (not even my front and rear axle sliders). The passenger pegs (on the Ss) keep the rear from touching down.

Do they make pegs that don't fold up? I'm assuming the stock pegs fold up in the event you scratch one leaning over to far, but I really don't know.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Someone makes a plate that bolts across the front portion of the primary to which a standard slider can be mounted. Looks like a much better setup than the so-called stunter cages. Might be a worthwhile investment for you.

Of course, a couple of track days would be a good investment too.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

{Do they make a stickier tire for you?}

I don't think thats the problem, I have scraped a peg while dragging a knee on a 9sx with Scorpion Syncs (a sport touring compound 5k mile rear tire).
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New12r
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If he is stunting the bike, which is what it sounds like then a cage will help out a bunch.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Unless that cage brakes the engine mount every time he throws the bike down.
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



#1 - clutch-lip failure


#2 - sprung a leak from shifter bolt, ~40mph fall


#3 - sprung a leak, same ~30mph fall on a new road


#2 was caught on tape, read the description area for info...

...but hell you have gone through 4?
correction , will be on my 4th

(Message edited by ochoa0042 on October 10, 2008)
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Dogdaze
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OOww!

Good vid until that last decreasing radius turn.....

Don't you have some nice straight Interstates to ride on instead of that twisty crap?
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't you have some nice straight Interstates to ride on instead of that twisty crap?

WHAT?!?! never!!!
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A few track days will do you much better than the stunt cage!

Also, get a pair of Dark Horse Moto sliders, and some frame pucks. I crashed my Uly a dozen times. Other than my bad wreck that the insurance company unjustly totaled it, It cost me less than $50 to fix it up good as new. Usually it was just a frame puck or peg that I wanted to replaced, but didn't need to replace.
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Jdemoxb9r
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ooh and on the pretty polished frame too? how much did that frame job run ya btw? or was it a DIY?
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ooh and on the pretty polished frame too? how much did that frame job run ya btw? or was it a DIY?
DIY, i dont want pucks kuz it will kill the polishing jo

A few track days will do you much better than the stunt cage!
been to two trackdays, did exceedingly well: I was even that a$$hole at the eagles canyon raceway that got bumped-up from novice group to intermediate, and was kicked out for still being too fast
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U4euh
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm assuming the stock pegs fold up in the event you scratch one leaning over to far, but I really don't know
I proved that to be fact, it just end as well as I would have liked!!
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Kowpow225
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whoops. Looked like a tar snake might have gotten you. Fix and repeat. (the riding)
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Jdemoxb9r
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah you deff dont wanna put pucks on that pretty piece of frame.
i say with the polished frame and what not a nice polished crash cage would go great on the bike!
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Firebolt32
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've seen a demo of the cage on Super Bikes. They rigged a guy to a harness, took the bike out on a track and power wheelied it to where it basically flipped. He crushed the tail but picked the bike up and rode it way....no hiccups.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why would they have kicked you out of intermediate for being "too fast"? Why wouldn't they have just bumped you up to expert?
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why would they have kicked you out of intermediate for being "too fast"? Why wouldn't they have just bumped you up to expert?
I broke the golden rule.... when demoing their bikes, you have to stay behind your instructor....
and he was holding me back!!! I lapped my instructor twice

I think I will like the cage this color.... adds to the accent color and my lights





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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well good luck with it, post the details when you get it hooked up. I am also curious as to how at affects the bike. : )
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The thing about stunt cages is, they're not so worried about weight, only strength.
You'll be adding several pounds to your front end.
You'll not be lapping anyone with that anchor attached!
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was thinking you were looking for protection for stunting but if you're looking for a cage to protect your bike because you haven't consistently ridden within your limits and have fallen 3 times as a result, I'd suggest California Superbike School or another that offers STRUCTURED instruction in a racing environment - and not worry about protection for your bike.

If you needed protection for stunting, that'd be one thing but it sounds like you are looking for protection for street racing and track day get-offs. The BEST protection is going to be more experience.

Yeah... it kinda reads like a lecture but it's early Sunday morning and I have to work today... and I'm grumpy.

...and another thing - ALL track day organizations have rules - usually VERY SIMPLE RULES - and if a rider cannot understand or follow them, it's usually best that he be asked to leave. Experience has shown them that there are almost ALWAYS a few riders that are willing to ride over their abilities and they structure their rules accordingly.

(Message edited by slaughter on October 12, 2008)
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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