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Xl_cheese
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Recently purchased xb9s from a guy that let it sit for 2 years. Fuel was bright yellow.

The fuel system is in bad shape. I drained the fuel and cleaned the tank up. Had to replace the fuel pump (thanks ebay and folks wrecking ulys) and now am trying to clean the injectors out.

I filled the tank with b12 cleaning stuff and have the injectors out of the throttle body. I'm trying to cycle the pump and injectors via ecm spy, but nothing is coming out of them. They must be completely clogged. I'd like to resuscitate them rather than buying new ones.

I think I'm going to soak the injectors and them try to cycle them again with straigh fuel system cleaner.

Do any of you have any advice on better methods?
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Hammer71
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The amount you spend on new ones now will surely be cheaper than the problems down the road.

Just my .02
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Mmcn49
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XL, There's a first class injector cleaning/testing & rebuilding company, Dr. Injector) in the Seattle area. They have 6 shops around Puget Sound 1 in Oregon and 1 in California.

They will ultra sonic clean, flow bench test and rebuild if necessary. You can mail or UPS them your sensors. Here's the web site: docinjector.com/location1.htm
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Screw that... the time down and such I'd just buy new.
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Xl_cheese
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hrm. maybe I'll just buy new ones.
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Xl_cheese
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

too bad we don't have an alternative that we could pick up from the autoparts store. The connectors say "ford" on them, but I can't seem to be able to cross reference them.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll bet they may be the same as a Ford Focus.
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Azxb9r
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buy new ones, or see if someone in your area has an ASNU machine. It is not a good idea to just install an injector that "looks" the same. If the flow rate is different you will create driveability problems.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nobody said anything about trying one that looked the same. If they are made for Ford. I bet theres a way to figure which car uses them.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would just buy a new set personally and be done with it.
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HTFU and buy new ones
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Tattoo72
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell fuel injectors are made by Ford. They will have a number on them that looks similar to this E7SZ-9F593-A. Get the number off them that looks like that. Then call your local Ford dealer with that number to get price and availability. You can probably get them cheaper through the Ford dealer than the Buell dealer. Once you have the Ford part number off the injectors you could also try Ebay.
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Xl_cheese
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here are the numbers I gathered.

103501
01F008A
11522

Good idea 'bout calling the ford dealer.

I have gotten one of them working, but the other is still clogged.
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Xl_cheese
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well alright. I soaked them in some b12 cleaner for a few hours.

pulled them out of the bottle I soaked them in and the O rings have swollen and are now useless.

I had a couple other o rings I could put on one end and test them with ecmspy and now both of them work!

I just need some o-rings to put it all back together.

I hope this is the last hurdle on this track bike to be.
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah - some of the older injector and fuel pump orings swell up when they actually see fuel. They seal really well but are NOT reusable.

Check the parts list carefully when ordering - the drawings aren't 100 percent clear. The o-rings aren't shown on the drawings. I can get you the part numbers later if you don't see them in the parts book when you look (I have a replacement set going into my bike during the rebuild sitting in a baggie)
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Hemicbx
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just had some 25 year old Kaw GPz injectors cleaned by www.witchhunter.com up in Washington. (They have a bunch of good info on their process on the web site and after cleanin, you get a before/after report with measured flow number.) Totally amazing difference on the bike and good customer service. Then we had them do a set for a Dodge Avenger that was missing like crazy and throwing codes. Had them cleaned and it's like new. I'm a huge fan of off-car injector cleaning. Was like $17 per injector.
Hemicbx
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