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Andymnelson
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buell-Firebolt-XB-B uell-Racing-Programmable-Race-Tuner_W0QQcmdZViewIt emQQcategoryZ35562QQihZ012QQitemZ220281628490QQrdZ 1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Oh wait....
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Northernyankee
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Schmitty
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is legit, I'm pretty sure I know who's selling this. If I had the cash, I'd have swiped it up myself.

Schmitty
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Northernyankee
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is legit, I'm pretty sure I know who's selling this. If I had the cash, I'd have swiped it up myself.

Schmitty


Dude just download EcmSpy and buy a cable...$30 all said and done. Why waste $500 on that.
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Point_doc
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"It is a custom map for a 12 motor with 9 pistons, K & N filter and Micron exhaust and a lightened 2008 crank."
...yea that's what I want, someone else's customized program! They would like someone to pay $500 plus for a program that was designed to run on ONE bike.

"I do not know much about how to use it..."

BRILLIANT...

(Message edited by point_doc on September 19, 2008)
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Schmitty
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guys, you're missing the point. The ECM is not locked to that program. You can reprogram it to whatever you want. He's just listing what he has done to his bike. The setup he's talking about happens to be a very popular, reliable club racing setup. It happens to be the setup I'm shooting for for next race season. Here's a thread that ends up talking about this setup towards the bottom. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/396111.html?1221856651The options for programming this thing are endless.

Besides that, this thing cost $750 from Buell racing, and you need a race license. So it is a sweet deal!

I do not know much about how to use it..."

BRILLIANT...

Hey Point,

Do you know how to do a custom dyno tune on your bike? I know the guy who's selling this part and he's a standup guy! Not to mention the fact that he's smokin fast on the race track.

Schmitty

(Message edited by schmitty on September 19, 2008)
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Ben!!
Kidding. Sorry to burst your bubbles, but Bens right. This is not the ECM Spy crap everyone thinks is the end all be all. This is right from the factory.
In fact, none of you should buy it because your not racers, and you'll never use it to it potential. Educate yourselves before opening your holsters.

(Message edited by rocketsprink on September 19, 2008)
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Neb25 IS fast as hell. Just ask them at the Buell Factory. They know.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Replace the 4 red dots above with this word...and it ain't chicken.

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Schmitty
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why thank you very much! I was waiting for some backup to arrive on this one!!

Schmitty
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Boltrider
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is that ECM for DDFI-2 or 3?
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Johntman
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Replace the 4 red dots above with this word...and it ain't chicken.

oh oh I know I know.... ROOSTER
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Point_doc
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My intension was not to insult him or the program; the add is poorly written to represent the item and that makes it funny. It is Friday and I was just having fun with it.

If you would like to take/make it personal have at it.

Rocketsprink, maybe you can educate me? Either on the software or your meaning of the rooster? You pick the medium...

(Message edited by point_doc on September 19, 2008)
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Js_buell
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If it is ddfi-3 I could be very interested. I think I would get this even before my drummer
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

D. New DDFI-2 Programmable ECU Kit
Kit includes new ecu, program and com box with cable.
Note: Current year race license required to purchase.
For race application only.
Y2152.08AH $775.00
Fits XB models.

That's a c0ck.
Consider yourself educated.

It's not so much what some people here say. It's how it's said.
Some people need to loose the condescending attitude. Especially when they're not up to speed on a topic.

(Message edited by rocketsprink on September 19, 2008)
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Replace the 4 red dots above with this word...and it ain't chicken.

umm, bird... crow... comb... beak... fowl, that it.

Fowl.

Calm down. If you want to sell a product, just be honest and do it. Don't get your buddies to pump it. Don't try to insult and bafflegab everybody. Some people here are racers, not me.}
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No one here is trying to pump anything up. Man, you guys read WAY to much into this shit.
By all means, purchase the thing. I don't care if you race or not. But don't post something trying to make some one look stupid when you yourself have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't nor did Ben know he was selling the ecm till some one posted it. Bens just trying to say in a more polite way that it's NOT ECMSpy, but a Buell Factory PROGRAMABLE ECM offered through Buell racing.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And the seller is being 100% honest.
Would it have been better that he made stuff up and said he knows it inside and out?
Hal's dyno tuned the bike for him. Last I checked, he didn't have a Dyno in his garage. They created a map that worked for HIS bike. Now if you buy it, dyno tune it to YOUR bike!
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Gearhead
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Since both Rocketsprink and Schmitty are on this thread I'm going to do a little hi-jacking,,,

Rocco how are you doing after your BHF get-off?
Schmitty, I heard you had knee surgery, how's it healing?
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Andymnelson
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wasn't ripping on anything other than a seller who doesn't seem knowledgeable of what he has. I would certainly have written a better description...

Can someone "in the know" educate us as to what makes this "programmable ECU" different than my programmable ECU that came on my bike? Like, what makes it worth the $775 that Buell charges vs. the $209 they charge for a race ECU, other than requiring you to have a license?
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Id073897
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can someone "in the know" educate us as to what makes this "programmable ECU" different than my programmable ECU that came on my bike?

Your ECM isn't programmable. If you look at it with BMC's eyes.

Regards,
Gunter
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Andymnelson
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Your ECM isn't programmable. If you look at it with BMC's eyes. "

Exactly my point. Is this thing actually any different?
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Starter
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I suppose this would be like the consumer RaceECM on E-bay. Hopefully someone don't know what ECMSpy is.

"Sell it while you still got a chance"
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Schmitty
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 05:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This ECM makes is straight factory kit. Not some knockoff like ECMSpy. If you guys don't like it, quit pissin on the guys parade and don't read the ad. Go buy your frickin ECMSpy cable and be happy. But for the race track and a true race setup this is the way to go.

Schmitty
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NOW Gunter is pushing a product.
Sorry Gunter. Still wouldn't buy it (ECMSpy). To each their own I guess.

Some of you should apply for a job at Buell. Apparently you know more than the engineers there.

Ben's correct. If you don't want it, don't buy it, don't read it, don't look at it.
But shut your frickin' mouths about it.
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocketsprink,
I don`t see GunTer pushing any products,( If anything Gunter should be PRAISED to NO END for what he has done for helping guys here ) Myself having not EVER talked to him Personality ..Especially since what I see its FREE, I MAde a cable so it was like 20.00 Bucks... NOW I will say I don`t know anything about the Factory ECM for Racers only.... Only that it would take DYNO time etc etc to get it right for ANY BIKE... Would ya agree here???? Also with the other software out there requires Dyno time to get it Dialed in... I am not sure what ya can or can not do with regards to the timing maps, adding/subtracting fuel etc etc... with either of these products, But had thought one was as good as the other, IF "One" knew what they were doing etc etc.. Now Ya can Flame on me all YA want.. But Perhaps others can correct me where I am Wrong here...
I`m sure others would like to know the Advantages or Disadvantages of one or the other with regards to this...
JUst a note, is one not a Dos program and the other Windows based...That alone may be something to think about...
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Id073897
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Still wouldn't buy it (ECMSpy).

You can't buy it, even if you wanted to.

But as you seem to know: how does the factory ECM differ from a stock one, except that you get some PC software with it?

Regards,
Gunter
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One was developed by schooled Engineers with a rather large advantage over a guy from Germany that developed his own.
Gunter. I have no isuues with you. You developed a cheaper version of what Buell offers. You, please, explain to me how your product is the same as Buells.
The issue I have is with all the assholes on this site that see fit to open their mouths and shit on some one they don't know.
"Sell it while you still got a chance"
What a stupid, uneducated comment.
Like was said above, get your cables and get you ECMspy. I prefer to have my race bike tuned on a dyno. Again. Personal choice.


Ralph. Ribs are a little sore still. That's what happens when you bounce off a tire wall. Missed the air fence by that much!!
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Id073897
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One was developed by schooled Engineers with a rather large advantage over a guy from Germany that developed his own.

You seem or want to misunderstand me. I didn't ask about the software, but about the diffences between the ECMs. All I know is that these are almost identical, and differ only in the "for race use" sticker and the BMC supplied software.

As you pointed out several times, the factory race ECM has advantages over the stock one. I would like to know which these are.

Regards,
Gunter
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here we go again.

Its not the factory Race ECM that the general consumer can buy. This is the race ECM that is in Race Bikes that you can only get if... 1. You have a race License. 2. Its no different then whats in a XBRR. 3 For closed coarse racing only.
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