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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

lee
yeah a simple swivel will work but as easy flier said and as I said.....it is easier just to loosen the axle and take the pulley off.
just be delicate and don't tear your bike up.
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Noface
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damn Ken, I grew up right around the corner from you in Solon. We used to go to Sutliff to get one of those "famous" burgers.

You might even know my old man. He's a Millwright that worked around there all his life, and a little older (59) than you by looking at your profile.

Great fishing down that way...

small world for sure.

Jody S.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bads1
gary's problems with his dealer were so friggin stupid. His seat screw insert had come loose so that when you turned the screw it spun around. Well gary takes it in to get it fixed and the dumb$%s service manager says that since he has an aftermarket pipe and the full fairing body work that his bike has no warranty.
now mind you we are talking about a screw at the seat, not engine stuff or anything even related to the pipe or body work. So to make a long story short gary gets it worked out and will have his seat screw fixed.


Buell harley davidson are ya listening here.....your dealer network has way too many people in it that have no clue about business or customer service. Instaed of having classes on how to sell t-shirts have some classes on how to deal with people and some common sense business 101.
But we all know if it was a harley this probably wouldn't have happened.
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Easyflier
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bubba,
But we all know if it was a harley this probably wouldn't have happened.

It's good to start the day with a little humor. :)
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Leeaw
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was peeking at it this morning and see the two rear clamps and one front clamp. So I would have to get a swivel in there and remove the straps or the strap support bracket?

The dealer did not have the manual in stock when I was there last night. I really don't want to screw anything up. I hate scratching or messing up new stuff.

Can someone possibly fax me a copy of the pages? I would be eternally indebted and I can get my old pipe back to Brian faster.

Lee
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Xb12r
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you Brian,
All because my dealer did not have the bike and I went up north to get it,the service manager was the parts manager so he would not order parts for me,Told me to go to the dealer I got the bike from,I called dave, and overnited the parts,The bad thing this guy rides an xb9r, Now they made him service manager, I am in deeeeep s--t.
AND I HAVE 5 HARLEYS FIRST WARRANTY
PROBLEM.
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XB12R, Someone owns that facility and that's who you need to speak with! That's complete and total BS that you're being treated like that. I would like to help you out and I've got some experience in matters such as this. I went to war with Daimler Chrysler a few years ago and won. I hate to see people get screwed by little minded idiots. Put the name of your dealer up, or send it to me privately, and we will raise the bullshit flag on this and someone will take notice. Please advise!

Greg
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Xb12r
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you Bigdaddy,
I talked with the owner of the store.on a 3 way call.told him why I got the bike up north and I do have a aftermarket pipe and a full faring on the bike, but we are talking about a seat screw??
not a con rod or crank,
He was very helpfull and told me when they have the part they will repair the bike, I can do it myself drill out the old screw but if I slip and hit the plastic our seat, they said they will do it that way if they mess up they will replace the seat our the plastic,
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Leeaw
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A swivel ratchet and a swivel connector on the 12mm socket and got the muffler down no worse for the wear.

Now just to get it up before I have to go to my daughter's school Halloween party.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To Opto and others overseas:

I'm not entirely certain how customs and duty taxes work, but... Is it less "taxing" getting parts shipped by private parties than getting them directly from a vendor like Harley-Davidson? Would they really tax your "Christmas Present Pipe" from your "good buddy Bubba" back in the states? As long as there is no receipt or invoice in the box, how does The Man know the difference between an overseas gift and an overseas purchase?
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Leeaw
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And finally done! Pretty darn easy. Sounds FRIGGIN' AWESOME and yes I am yelling.

No time to ride now but tomorrow will be the test.

Thanks again Brian and mine will be headed back to you on Monday. If my family and I go visit friends again in North Raleigh, how far are you from there?

I would just like to meet you in person and say hello.

Lee
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

lee
Glad you got her all hooked up , she does sound pretty good don't she. Now it won't belong til you get that ecm and filter and really get her good.
we are only about 2 hrs away from there. It would be good to meet ya if you ever get this way.

I'll be the big fat ugly bald guy in between all the beautiful buells....I am easy to pick out
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Leeaw
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just got a quick 10 mile ride in. Sounds louder than my M2 with the Pro Series pipe. It is hard to hear myself smiling. I could not imagine a louder pipe.

It seems to pop a little when coming off throttle mostly from higher rpm's. Now, at 3K, it has that M2 snap like it didn't have with the stock bike. All in all, very pleased to say the least.

You think the popping is leaning out? I gotta order the filter and ECM, but am not that keen on having to take it back in just for TPS reset.

My XB9R

Drummer
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Leeaw,

It that a stock triple clamp?
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Leeaw
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All stock except for the pipe and the S pegs.
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Dynarider
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well gary takes it in to get it fixed and the dumb$%s service manager says that since he has an aftermarket pipe and the full fairing body work that his bike has no warranty.

Unfortunatley that is more commonplace than a lot of people know. There are dealers out there who will use any excuse they can to avoid warranty work.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah but it can be worked out when you call the big wigs attention to dumb dealers....


lee
pipe looks great on there. I am glad your happy. Yeah get the ecm and filter. But yeah the way the fuel injection works when you get off the gas it does lean out a lil for a short time.
and the stock won't compensate as well either.
ride it for about 3 or 4 miles at a steady 3 to 3.5k and let the computer learn whats happening now.

thanks again for your support
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Opto
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chainsaw - I think they go off the invoice, might be an idea for me to ring them up and ask about this "gift" scenario. In Oz the exhaust attracts 5% customs, then the whole lot (including freight and the previous 5%) gets 10% GST, then the freight people will ring me up asking for their $50 to $70 AUD for customs declarations.
But I wouldn't want good buddy bubba getting into any trouble now would I? ;)
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Fuzz331
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ride it for about 3 or 4 miles at a steady 3 to 3.5k and let the computer learn whats happening now.

Are you saying that this will take the place of having the tps recalibration?
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no I amnot saying that. He still has the stock ecm on, atleast for a while,
No even when you get the TPS reset its a very good Idea to ride it like I said because then the system is in the closed loop mode and it learnse what the bike is doing. Because with the free flowing exhuast it has change the whole combustion process.
If all you do is immediatly start whacking on and off on the throttle it is in the open loop and not doing anything other than what it is preprogrammed to do.
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Leeaw
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am going to try that this morning and report back. I am being drawn like a magnet back to the dealer for the ECM and filter.

Where is the ECM anyway, and what do you need to get to it? I was thinking of riding up, swapping the parts in the lot if they can squeeze me in for a TPS. They are good guys and know my last name is not Trump.

Would it suck without getting the TPS right away?
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would it suck without getting the TPS right away?
It would suck out loud!
You would not be riding much further than the driveway...
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where is the ECM anyway
In the fairing if I'm not mistaken.
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Leeaw
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Advise taken.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

lee
like I've said get the ecm you'll be happy...
it is behind the fairing. Take off the turn signals the mirrors and the 2 screws at the bottom of the v of the windscreen. youll see it there.
good luck
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Roc
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For import tax reasons - would it help to declare the parts as used?
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Roc
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or perhaps they give you a nice deal on the unit price but you make up the difference in shipping fees. Your used can was $100, S&H was $250. Or maybe they are a specialty shop performing a service on your can, how are services taxed?

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Buckinfubba
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

roc
you maybe on to something with that services performed thing. Because thats what it is. Someone should look into that. I am not smart enuff to know where to look
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Chainsaw
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shipping:
I'll look on FedEx.com come Monday. They have an International Shipping dohickie that will estimate customs and taxes and such. I'll see if they have any definitive info on New or used stuff, gift or purchase. I'd do it today, but my FedEx account info is at work (and I need it to log on get the info)

Good thinkin' Roc! Labor isn't taxable in this country.
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Oconnor
Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone have any dyno #s with a drummer and say a nallin header? will a nallin header fit a drummer can? That is what I want to run. Considering I heard the nallin can scraps on left hand turns...
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