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Jeffroj
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone on here welded their seat rails to the center tail section? Any problems arise with spacing? Pics?
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Brumbear
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WTF I thought this was shaved something or other
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Retrittion
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm confused...but still interested. Could someone explain to the non-welders in the group? I could explain but I would probably do it as well as I can weld, BADLY!

Seriously -- I'm great with a plasma cutter or a grinder or anything like that but my welds are crud. I'm so ashamed!
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Andymnelson
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lot's of confusion, and I'm not sure why...he wants to weld the side rails to the tailpiece and smooth them out. Wants to see if anyone has done it.

I think it's a great idea aesthetically, but I question the ability of that crappy aluminum to be welded nicely and smoothly. Plus I have a fiberglass tailpiece, so no-can-do! When riding season is over, I am having my rails powdercoated and painting the tailpiece to match, but now you've got me thinking about welding up the tail and cleaning it up....damnu! : )
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Jeffroj
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry for the confusion.
Most of the mods you can do on these bikes are bolt on, except for the chopping of the cheesegrater. I think its great that the aftermarket is so awesome for the XB, but what about custom mods on these bikes? These bikes have been engineered so well that there is not much that you would want to modify.
So I've been thinking of small things that would set my bike apart from others, even it they are subtle and will not be noticed by anybody other than a Buell enthusiast.
The first mod that came to mind was welding the sub-frame together, creating a continuous rail around the seat, eliminating those awful seams that don't line up at all! And yes Andy, the cast aluminum is not the easiest to weld, it may turn into a puddle as soon as the arc touches it, this is where my questions for people that have done it come in. I swear I have seen an Xb with this done on here, or they just photoshopped the seams out. If it is possible to welded with no bondo, and have it powdercoated, how badass would that be.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Welding isn't going to do it. I got a feeling you're going to need an alloy to Braze this, especially if the rails and the tail are dissimilar metals. Aluminum is a touchy deal.
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Od54
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cast aluminum isn't like cast iron. It welds quite well as long as there are no voids which would be hard to have anyway. I'd suggest using a foot pedal controlled heli-arc. Don't forget to match your alloys.

Oh yea, and heat area up first. That makes a huge difference.

(Message edited by od54 on September 11, 2008)
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So I've been thinking of small things that would set my bike apart from others, even it they are subtle and will not be noticed by anybody other than a Buell enthusiast.
Something like this?
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Xl_cheese
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How 'bout some JB weld? I mean those parts are probably stable. You just want to fill in the cracks.
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Jeffroj
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't trust JB weld, although it might do the job if you left the four bolts holding the tail and rails together. Is Jb Weld powder coat-able anyways?
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Puddlepirate
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JB Weld doesn't powdercoat well. I had some done on a triple tree and it bubbled. From a couple feet away it isn't noticeable, but you can see it when you get closer.
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Bigredwood
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 04:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Removed

(Message edited by BigRedWood on September 13, 2008)

(Message edited by BigRedWood on September 13, 2008)
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Hexangler
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not nice.
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Andymnelson
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



(Message edited by andymnelson on September 13, 2008)
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Sub65chris
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think there is a set of seat rails for sale in the parts section and plenty of people have the cheese grater. so why dont you try it out on parts taht are not attached to your bike. not attached , rather not needed to run your bike. less down time . this is coming out wrong. I am going to stop now. really i am.
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Jeffroj
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah I through a post up in the wanted section for seat rails almost 4 months ago. Nobody has had any posted for sale on here until the other day, someone else beat me to them, damn!
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Jeffroj
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an extra tail section, anybody have some rails laying around?
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Bigredwood
Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So easily offended . . . it is just a damn joke. You torch folks for riding Jap and trying new ideas . . . yet can't take a joke.
FINE . . . it is removed.
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Jeffroj
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


This is what I want. Anybody have any extra seat rails?
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is that photochop??

Looks really good!
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Jeffroj
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah it's photoshopped, but look how clean it would look!
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Ulyssesguy
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow thats a really good idea im going to have to do that on my Xb, I would use aluminum Brazing rod like this stuff... http://durafix.com/
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Jeffroj
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh yeah, I remember seeing the infomercial on that stuff like 3 years ago, good idea. If anybody does this before I ever get a chance to do it, please post pics.
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