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Cringblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

& how are they performing ?
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lyndall gold pads on wave brake rotors.

1 finger stoppies FTW! : )
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Andymnelson
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

See here's my thing- everyone keeps saying they use the Lyndall gold pads because of their lack of initial bite. To me, that's a bad thing! I come from sport bikes where the initial bite is huge and they stop you fast! I love the initial bite on my lightning, and I'm worried that overall braking will also be diminished with the Lyndalls. Input?
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Lyndalls have a nice progressive feel. American Sport Bike sells them and he also has EBC brand pads that are more up your ally
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New12r
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EBC is my choice.

I have ran the Lyndalls and the EBC's.
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Sloppy
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lyndalls are good "street" pads as they help prevent "panic" lock ups, but for the track I prefer EBC or DP's. That strong initial bite helps set the front suspension quickly so you can continue to increase lever pressure -- but on the street it can be a liability.

Which is better depends upon what you are looking for.
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Northernyankee
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have EBC's and love em.
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Rhun
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i used ebc fa345hh on the street on my last bike. New bike OEM. My track bike I used to use EBC GFA 345HH but they were to hard to come by as I had to get them from a Track side vendor. I now use 'Braking pads'. I get them through my dirt bike dealer at a good price. Local HD wants list. He gets them through Parts Unlimited. Or you can get them from Trojan in England. Good feel. They don't fade and I get about three track days out of them. List is around $50. OEM fades to quickly for the track.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm running the Lyndall Golds on mine.
I like them a lot. I can trail brake much better with these than the stock ones.

As was stated before, on a track they are not so good. They'll start to fade under the heavy requirements of the track I hear.

But on the street, for mild and aggressive street riding they rock.
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Cringblast
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I installed the Lyndall Golds when the pulsating on the stock ones got to bad. Before installing the Golds I used a greenie and brake cleaner on the rotor. At first no pulsing. After about 1000miles the pulsing came back. Now have to use greenie and cleaner every week. Pulsing goes away for a day or 2 then progressievly returns. I tried the hard, late braking for a while and no difference.
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Retrittion
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That just don't sound right Cring -- Lyndalls usually clear up the pulse. Don't have a clue whats wrong though, except maybe that the brake cleaner is messing things up somehow (thoughts anyone?).
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lightly--bold, underline, italic-- sand your disc (both sides) in a radial direction, the full 360 degrees, and that will last a bit longer than the greenies, and brake cleaner.

could your rotor be warped?!?!

i got the sinterd pads now, and am noticing no pulsation after over 1k mi. not as much initial bite (kinda miss it) and they seem to be more abrasive on the disc.
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Sloppy
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Warning on using cleaner and a rag for your disks. Make sure you use DISPOSABLE clean towels when you use a "brake cleaner". Otherwise whatever the solvent removed can be re-deposited elsewhere.

Brake cleaner only "dissolves" -- the cleaning only takes place when the soiled solvent is removed. In most brake shops, they "shower" the brakes with brake cleaner (but if you do this at home you'll ruin the finnish on your wheel and perhaps dissolve the grease in your bearing).

I recommend a SINGLE pass of a disposable paper towel to clean your disks after you spray with "brake cleaner". Repeat with a fresh paper towel with each spray until the paper towel is clean. I typically use 5 sheets per side...
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Cringblast
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the ideas !!!
I dont feel the rotors are warped because the pulse goes away for a little while after cleaning.
I was using the same greenie. So I am gonna try the cleaner and the SINGLE pass of a disposable paper towel and see how it goes.
C.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As i have stated in many similar threads, its next to impossible to warp the rotor. You would need to do something like coast all the way down mount everest at 200mph. : )

The pulsing feel is from the brake pads leaving deposits on the rotor.
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Tmall
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's just not true. My service manager is on his 3rd one on his CityX. When the service manager says his own rotors are getting warped, I tend to believe him.
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Moosestang
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just installed the braking cm55 sintered pads. My opinions not worth much, but i'll give it after i've logged some miles with them. I had the stock pads before.
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Marko138
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got the Lyndall Gold+. I like them. Haven't run them on the track...and by the sound of things I might not. Maybe I'll try the EBC's next.
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Mrd
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am going with the EBC's when I change my pads next weekend.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

That's just not true. My service manager is on his 3rd one on his CityX. When the service manager says his own rotors are getting warped, I tend to believe him.




One tried to get me to buy a tube for my tires.
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Cringblast
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rode yesterday and today and did the
cleaner and the SINGLE pass of a disposable paper towel process before each ride.
No pulse for 2 days. Guess I gotta
keep the rotor cleaner for a while and see whats up !!
C.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lyndalls are great....

They'll clean your rotor up too... No more pulsing...
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Tmall
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do you even quote people on here?

Froggy, You may have those problems at your dealer. Mine are golden. They've won the best dealership in Canada for a few years running.

If I have a problem, I stop in and the service manager and I usually sort it out on the spot and off I go without ever really being on the books. Half of the people who work there ride Buells, the other half Harleys. And every single one of them knows me by name and I can say likewise for them..
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh they are Canadian Rotors
why didn't you say so, they stop in KILOMETERS not MPH that makes em way less gooder than ares
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Caperken
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, Tmall. I see you're from Nova Scotia, so you must be referring to Privateers in Halifax. I agree with you, they're terrific for Buells. I feel sorry for all those who are not getting great service; those who go to Privateers are well taken care of.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tmall, the dealer is a board sponsor. Thankfully that guy was only there a few weeks before he quit/fired. They have been very good with helping me out with my issues.
Last fall I had a minor spill a block from the place. I got there 10 minutes after closing needing a quick fix on my bike. The front brake line nut came loose from the hard impact on the right, and it ended up shooting brake juice everywhere. Also bent the bag bracket and it would not go back on. A couple of the guys from service came out, gave me a quick fix-me-up to at least get me back going. I needed to bleed the brakes after, but at least I had some front brake now and was able to get home safely.

Also, half their department rides Buell's, I ride with them all the time, and they keep warning me about the damage I do to the fork seals : )

The point of my last post, nobody is perfect, even the best dealers make mistakes. Mine sure has, but it’s not how they make a mistake, its how they fix it that matters.
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Hogs
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good to see others in here from Halifax and surrounding areas...!
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Moosestang
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2008 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well the braking cm55 pads have a lot more initial bite than the stock pads. my stock pads were worn down pretty good, but still had a 1,000 or so miles in them. I don't notice any pulsating, but I didn't feel any with the stock pads either. I've yet to brake hard with them, i'll give them a 100 or so miles before I do any stoppies.
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