| Author | Message | ||
     Jeffroj |
Yesterday I picked up my 12S from the dealership performing the 5K service. Got back and first realized my bike got so hot that the frame burned a hole in my seat, my perfect un-flawed seat! I only rode the bike for about 20 minutes home and it got hotter than it ever has before, this I know because my perfect seat got a hole burned into it. I was looking at my receipt and then realized that I forgot to mention to put synthetic in. Could it be that my bike got spoiled and only likes synthetic? Is this the reason the bike got so flipping hot? If it is then I will switch it back to synthetic asap. Could it be something else? | ||
| Moclov |
engines can run 20-50 degrees cooler on synthetic | ||
| Andymnelson |
My bikes have always run cooler on synthetic. I have only used Royal Purple 20 50 full synthetic oil for years in my bikes. My Triumph will kill if idling and the cooling fan kicks in, so running cooler and having the fan come on less is very important on that bike! I notice a big difference on that bike. Not as much on my Buell, but it does seem to be cooler. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Is the fan running? If that thing got so hot that it did damage, it doesn't sound like it's cooling at all. | ||
| Jeffroj |
Yes the fan was running. I spoke with the service dept. and they want me to bring the bike in on Sat. to find out why it's running so hot. Should I just swap the regular with synthetic now so I can ride it and also see if it runs cooler and also take it in on Sat. or should I just stay off of it until Sat? I'm pretty sure it has to be the oil. | ||
| Andymnelson |
I can not imagine the thing running that hot because of the oil- don't they come from the factory with dinosaur oil?? Personally, I wouldn't ride it. And I wouldn't touch their work until they look at it and fix the problem. | ||
| Vtbueller |
Like Andy said. Don't ride it. If you touch it they will blame you. | ||
| Jeffroj |
Yeah, I decided that I am going to take it back up tonight and hopefully pick it back up on Sat with the problem fixed. Can anybody take a stab at what it might be? Thermostat? do the XB's have one? | ||
| Damnut |
I believe that you need to be liquid cooled to have a thermostat.......... | ||
| Cable |
I've heard from a lot of people that if you switch to synthetic oil, that you shouldn't switch back to regular oil and that it could cause some problems. I'm not sure what any of those issue's could be I just know I heard its not good to switch back. | ||
| Jeffroj |
The switch back was unintentional. I figured the Tech would check which oil was in before, so he/she knows which oil to replace it with. Especially if it is bad to replace synthetic with regular. This is the 3rd oil change I have had done there, I thought the techs look at the records of the bike before they service it, especially for a 5K service! Wouldn't you want to check to see if the problems that were solved in the past are not reoccurring? | ||
| Jeffroj |
I've been googling problems that may arise from switching back, and most say that there would be no problems as long as its the same weight. | ||
| Valiant_duke |
The whole tale of switching back has been resolved years ago. When synthetics came out years back, it was thought that once you ran synthetics you must stick with them, in the fear that the seals would leak after going back and the metal components would be harmed. Well with much discussion, testing and time, people have found the fears to be not true and should really not be an issue any longer. Jeff you are correct, as long as you stick to the same weight, usually the one recommended by the manufacture, you should be fine for switching. I wouldnt make a habit of it, but going back shouldnt hurt you in any way. | ||
| Ted |
the manual says not to switch oils indiscriminately as they can have bad interactions. but i doubt a dino / synth change will be prob. is the oil level right? | ||
| Doubled |
If there is a problem with switching between synthetic and mineral oil why would anybody in their right mind run a synthetic blend (premixed, bottled up blend of syn and mineral)? As stated previously, you won't have any problems switching between the two as long as they are the same weight. | ||
| Buellnick |
Mineral is ok...change it more often. Synthetic is better... Blends are ok. HD 360 is a synthetic blend. All modern oils have synthetic additives that help them meet modern API, JASO, and Euro standards. You can switch. You can even mix (if necessary) although this is not recommended for a variety of reasons that become apparent in long term applications. Within the recommended 5k (or less) oil change intervals it doesn't really matter. Of course synthetics are best... If you value your machine, use the best oil and change it within the recommended oil change intervals... |
