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Iamarchangel
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only had this bike for a few months now but I'm having some confusion over the nut and bolt sizes.

How much of this bike uses metric sizes vs standard sizes?

Good thing I have two sets of tools but I'm never sure what size to grab.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From what I remember of my Xb, it's a mixed bag of SAE and metric.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mixed!
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New12r
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mostly Standard with some mixed in metric, pisses me off to no end....

The U.S. need to drop this "standard" crap and get with metric. Just my .02
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Packrat
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't you mean "Just your .00357 euros? Fits right in with "metric"
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Mr2shim
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hate standard. Long live metric & SI, just wish America would wake up and smell the smart.
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Garyz28
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wish the U.S. had just stayed with inches. This slow and painful conversion has done nothing but cause confusion.
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh stop just buy the all in one wrentch from K-TELL
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Phoi
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had no idea it was mixed... just been using standard for the little bits I have done
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4cammer
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just one more excuse to buy more tools....
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did you know... metric cars, sold in the U.S.A. have "standard" fasteners?

The seat belt anchor bolts are in Inches, both the head size and threads, 7/16-20UNF, and if remember the wrench size is 11/16" or 3/4."

Viva la difference!
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't you mean "Just your .00357 euros? Fits right in with "metric"

That was good!!



Did you know... metric cars, sold in the U.S.A. have "standard" fasteners?

Enlighten me to the models, I have been a Honda tech since 03 and work on nissan and toyotas and have found exactly 0 standard fasteners.
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Honda Tech, great.
Go to IsIs:
Do a keyword search by vehicle Accord '08
keywords: front seat belt replacement.

Check it out, I suspect the Toyota and Nissan (Datsun) are the same, as it's a DOT specification, that no one wanted to get re-certified.
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For some reason every belt I have done I dont recall using a standard socket,( I dont have any at work). Thanks for the info!
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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a crap load of metric and standard tools and I agree that one system is necessary. I think the tool companies are the reason we still see both used on newer vehicles. They want to be able to sell you two of everything!

Mostly Standard with some mixed in metric, pisses me off to no end....

The U.S. need to drop this "standard" crap and get with metric. Just my .02


Nice picture in your profile!
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bring back WENTWORTH!

Real Men have ALL 3 SETS!
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Rhun
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used to complain about the sloppy T25 bolts, until I found out that some of them were T27 : )
Carrying a tool box with metric and US to the track has really improved my endurance. I laugh at the week girly boys with the metric only bikes and the sissy tool boxes!!
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Retrittion
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 03:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was at Sears the other day (think it was Sears at least) and saw that they make sockets and wrenches that work for both metric and standard -- I'm going to look into them a bit more but if they are what they say they are I would love to have them to make wrenching on my Buell easier.

Then again, it is kinda fun learning what wrench or socket to grab for whatever part of the bike I am working on -- but maybe that's just me. Actually I have started putting red nail polish on the heads of the metrics that I tend to forget ARE metrics which has helped me remember which are which.

It would be nice if the next major change in Buells was a smaller number of tools needed to work on them -- it would work nicely with Buells already scaled back number of parts.
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do I need anything else?







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Mtch
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 05:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Buelldualsport
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bigger Hammer
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Retrittion
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where's your friggen Dremmel man?!? You can't have a Buell without one of those, or your up the creek with a water soluble paddle!!!

Seriously, you need a bigger hammer than that -- and make sure it has a flaming skull on it too, makes it more awesome!
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

... so far I've used a lot of electrical tape and zip ties.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"... so far I've used a lot of electrical tape and zip ties."

Yeah... lots of freakin' zip ties on the bike. I use them a lot for that 'factory look'.

I already had metric and SAE tools because most American cars and trucks had been mixing them up for years. Those Torx heads, though... man I hate those. They are there strictly for ease of assembly at the factory... not disassembly in your garage.
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Sloppy
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, don't forget the tools you need for the "tamper-proof" torx heads as well!

I'll vote this thread as one of the funniest. Reminds me of a bunch of r-tards trying to hump a door knob...

: )
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok so on this debate, would I be able to take the front clip assembly from a Yami/Kawi/Zuki/Hyeunda dirt bike onto the neck bearing of the Buell Blast? Something along this


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Djkaplan
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That... is cool!
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Bernd
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tires are measured in standard and metric. Both measurements on one piece. Oy.
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