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Ferocity02
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So I finally got around to replacing my old worn out Pirelli Diablo rear tire. I went with a Diablo Rosso 190/50/17 to replace it, very nice tire btw. So I pick up the wheel and tire after the local motorcycle shop mounted it and "balanced" it. Halfway through putting it back on the bike I noticed they're weren't any weights on the wheel. So I call them up and apparently they neglected to tell me that my wheel is too wide to balance...

So run around town for a couple hours and hit up all the motorcycle and tire shops and no one has anything to balance it. The wheel at the hub is too wide for anyone's machines. I'm pretty sure every shop around here uses the same machines too, or so it seems. I guess all of the Asian bike dealers around here can't handle a good meaty American wheel...

So I was really fed up and threw the tire on the bike anyways and went for a spin. I got up to 120mph(closed course, do not attempt) and there were no odd vibrations, if anything it was smoother than before. I guess all Pirelli tires are zero balanced, but my rear wheel had 35gm of weights on it with the old Pirelli, so who knows...

Anyways, where do you guys get your rear wheel balanced?

BTW, the 190/50 doesn't look much wider than the 180/55 that came off. Probably need a wider wheel.

(Message edited by ferocity02 on August 28, 2008)
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New12r
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You have to static balance it, it is no secret and any REAL tech can do it with ease.
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Rain_bolt
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I take mine to a custom shop, or the dealer.
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Rsh
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had tires mounted and balanced at Cycle Gear. If you live where your profile says, there is a Cycle Gear in your town.

Here is a link: http://www.cyclegear.com/city_location.cfm?Store=9 7
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Herobluebuell
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've actually had the same problem before. I had to go to two different shops to find someone who could balance it. I finally made my way to the local HD shop and they did it for me
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Bombardier
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ditto on the HD shop.

Only stealer who can balance it.
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Chasten
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the balance doesn't seem to be an issue if you don't notice any vibrations. but... i have one of these: http://www.pbase.com/rodneff/2axis_adj_balancer

works really well.

here's another one... http://www.marcparnes.com/Harley_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm

(Message edited by chasten on August 29, 2008)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, whats the rim protector (4" x 6" chunk of cut up milk carton) that I left in the rear of my Sync during the last mounting going to do to my balance? ; )

Can't be worse then dyna-beads : )
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Ferocity02
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahhh crap! I didn't even think about taking it to an HD dealer. Oh well, the tire seems to balanced anyways. But I'll keep this in mind for next time.

I also didn't know Cycle Gear did anything other than sell gear.
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Edgydrifter
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, yeah. Cycle Gear will mount tires if you bring in your rims. I've had them do it for my old Seca--fast and fairly cheap.
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Starter
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, whats the rim protector (4" x 6" chunk of cut up milk carton) that I left in the rear of my Sync during the last mounting going to do to my balance?

Can't be worse then dyna-beads

Nice form, your meant to tie some string to them so you can pull them out.
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Bombardier
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 05:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Am told it's not the width of the tyre but the width of the rim.

Incidentaly - the wider the axle in relation to the tyre the easier it is to change direction as there is more leverage via the longer axle.

Erik thinking about us again.
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Ben782
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You need to find a shop that has a "Coats" brand tire balancer. Not all coats will work but most shops that have them, have the longer balancer shaft already on it. All Snap on Brand balancers do not have a long enough shaft to fit the hub on it.
And you are correct, it is not the tire, its the hub portion of the rim that is too wide.
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Darth_buell
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 03:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DYNA BEADS....The tire changes as it wears.why shouldn't the weights.Next to no wobble from my front tire with them.
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Skinstains
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am a 1/2 owner of a "No-Mar" manual tire machine. We also bought the ballancer that goes with it. I own alot of bikes and ride them often so it paid for itself quickly. Even if you and a buddy have but one bike each and split the cost it will pay itself off soon enough. Especially if you factor in the convienience of changing and ballancing when you want to not when the dealer wants to.
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Skinstains
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For Buell rims you will need the larger diameter tapers that go where the axle goes as the stock size fits through the rim.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i got lucky with my local HD shop. Neither wheel has weights on them.. i watched them balance them and they came out great.. Dyna Beads will go in next time though
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