| Author | Message | ||
     Naiguy |
ok so i have been trying to figure out what to get for my bike.........figured protection for the bike would be the best place to start. looked at some kits for fork and swing arm savers, and figured i can make that........ so i went to my buddy whos a pro skater and said "dude you got a set of wheels i can get from you. he said "sure, here you go" and gave me something like these.  four of them of course. they are a hard urethane. and graffix like this  then i went on line and ordered some other parts such as these. two shafts with threads on either end.  four red anodized washers  four red anodized bolts  now i wait till rest of parts arrive and continue my project................. i hope it works. ill get pics of install and "on bike shots" after parts arrive.  | ||
| Mr2shim |
If it works like you hope, that'd be really sick. Nice job @ unique thinking. | ||
| Bwesky |
good idea, but not to burst your bubble... ive see it done before. ill take my chances with Dark Horse Moto sliders. | ||
| Nillaice |
cool deal. seen similar before, but i like your twist on it | ||
| Naiguy |
i was looking at the dark horse moto kit and thats when my friend said those look like skate board wheels and then the light went off. im just lucky to get the wheels free, cause at the store it like 49.99 for a set of four for the spitfire wheels. kinda neet is they make all kinds of sizes and colors and logos so it would be easy to get a personal look. i just need to make sure to get the right hardware that counter sinks into the space for the bearing. just saw these wheels  and these  no worries about bursting my bubble in my search for my slider "graffix" i found this.  | ||
| Naiguy |
the blacked out look   | ||
| Semirgdj |
finally some young guys with brains!!! instead of the old farts that just throw money at this stuff and debate which, over priced sliders are better, that are usually on here. I did this mod 3 years ago with skate wheels...it works GREAT and I have even tested them (not by choice) I simply used ready rod from home depot to connect them. | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Some old farts still got some of their marbles left. Here's an old timer who did a rather nice job on his first skateboard slider install about five years ago.  Note the hidden nut detail on the front axle, and the Ricta orange crystal wheels.   PS: might want to think about a set of inexpensive bearings to better fit the wheels to the axles. (Message edited by gentleman_jon on July 31, 2008) | ||
| Tpoppa |
I used a set of axle sliders from a ZX6. I made the mount from a piece of threaded rod and chrome cap nuts. I looks really good. Haven't had to use them in 4 years they've been installed... | ||
| Darthane |
finally some young guys with brains!!! instead of the old farts that just throw money at this stuff and debate which, over priced sliders are better, that are usually on here. Just because some of us choose to go with established routes doesn't make us old nor farts. I have Dark Horse Motos because: 1) Keith's a great guy and I want to support him. 2) They look great (no offense, but I just don't dig the idea of big old skateboard wheels sticking out of my axles). 3) They're top-notch quality. Considering Naiguy said those wheels are normally $50, plus the assorted rods, nuts, etc, please explain to me why my $80 Dark Horse Moto sliders were such a horrible idea? Make sure you post pics when you're all done, Naiguy! =) | ||
| Naiguy |
just for the record i am not trying to sell or make any kits for anyone other than my self. or in no way trying to step on anyones toes. i am an american craftsman. i hand build high end custom surfboards/ and soon furniture. i love working with my hands and being creative. there is a sense of accomplishment when you are able to make something with your own two hands. in the last few years big surfboard companys have been trying to outsource as much production as possible to china and the likes with the support of surfboard media ie. magazines. one of the reasons i went with a buell is cause i can put my money where my mouth is. how could preach to support my craft and roll up to work on a bike from overseas. the skate board wheels my friend gave me are made in america too, and for me that makes me feel good. i grew up skate boarding and it got me through some rough times in my teens, and gave me joy like my motorcylce does today. so for me having skate board wheels on my motorcycle represent who i am and where i came from. | ||
| Naiguy |
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| Semirgdj |
"for me having skate board wheels on my motorcycle represent who i am and where i came from." WELL SAID!!! BTW you live within a few miles of an awesome Buell parts dealer owned by a great Bueller named AL, American Sportbike is located in Vista} | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
I think my Dark Horse Moto Econo sliders are a great deal. I doubt I could make a set for less money. But skate wheels do look cool. Post pictures when you're done. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
the difference is units such as dark horse moto have a should on the back of the slider that goes into the axle, which takes the stress off of the rod when you go down. chances are if you go do at any kind of speed, that skate wheel will just tear off since no part of the sk8 wheel is inside the axle tube. | ||
| Moosestang |
Is there any kind of write up for how to mount the skate board wheels through the axle? Do the skate board wheels touch the swing arm or do you have some kind of nut/washer between there? | ||
| Voofighters |
I went with Dark Horse Moto for my sliders as well.. You can make them from skateboard wheels pretty easily, but if you look carefully, the D.H.M. versions have that shoulder to help out the spindle (as Badliosnfan pointed out) I priced out DIY vs D.H.M. and its true, you can save some money but I liked the assurance that came with using someone elses' proven design.. The savings just wasnt' a big deal to me at that point.. | ||
| Randomchaos |
Skateboard wheels are rounded on the inside and outside. If they arent too big, I dont see why they wouldnt fit slightly inside of the axles, making them more stable. All depends on the size of the wheel though, and if the curviture fits the axle just right. Im planning on getting the eco front sliders, and the rear ones that work like rear stand spools. The skateboard wheels idea seems really good though. After a little looking around, you can get a set of 4 plain black wheels for less than $10. | ||
| Moosestang |
Has anyone thought of using poly shock bushings? I'm not sure how hard they are, but they will fit nicely inside the axles. | ||
| Naiguy |
badlions fan good point thanks for pointing that out. ill put the wheels on a lathe( machine ) and turn them a bit till they fit into the axle a third of the way that should help  | ||
| Naiguy |
semirgdj thanks for the info. checked out the website and its like 15 mins from my work. im going to go by and check it out. | ||
| Naiguy |
moosestang i was planing to put the wheel against the fork but as badlion pointed out failure would be likely. im using the washer to snug the bolt to the skate board wheel so the nut doesnt pull through. i want the nut to be in wear the bearing would be, flush with the outer side of the skateboard wheel. | ||
| Retrittion |
Cool project, looking forward to see them mounted. Personally, I Went Dark Horse Moto -- Ecos to be exact, you can see them on my bike in my profile pic. I also went with a Special OPS pipe too. Not because I couldn't rip my pipe apart and make my own or DIY sliders but I like the products Dark Horse Moto and Odie puts out and I like supporting the people who make cool gear for Buells. I think its great if you want to DIY (I did that for my plate relocation and plate light) or get it from someone who did it themselves -- either way someone is putting thought and effort into our parts. It isn't like we have a catalog of mass-produced parts to choose from to bling our our bikes. Either way is cool. | ||
| Fastxb12r |
I love the look of the skateboard wheels and making them yourself is even better.Its not that I dont "support" the companies but that I take pride in making something myself rather then buying something anybody can buy.I cant wait to see the finished product Naiguy .  I made my own and they look exactly like the stealth sliders from Dark Horse Moto.They have shoulders and are nickel so they look good and function right.The big difference is mine cost around 5 dollars a set.I also opened up my airbox and made my own tag mount set up instead of "supporting" looking like every other bike. XD     Just So You Know If You Like My Sliders they sell them at your local Target in the area where they have cabinet handles and they fit perfectly.They fit so good you would think that I used a lathe to make them.    | ||
| Volk |
hey guys heres my bike i did this a couple months ago and really like it. luckily i haven't had to test them. i just used some allthread from lowes with nuts and washers the only thing was i had to sand the washers down to get them to fit in the hole.    | ||
| Semirgdj |
"VOLK" THOSE LOOK GREAT!!!!! | ||
| Naiguy |
volk , what are your torque specs  looking good! | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
Awesome!  | ||
| Nedwreck |
The higher the durometer the harder the wheel. A 98A durometer wheel would be a very good choice. I have some really cushy 60 durometer wheels on my longboard that would probably drag you to a stop coz they're soft and really grippy. Skate board wheels are urethane while most sliders that are made for motorbikes are UHMW plasic like what's used in cutting boards and milk jugs. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
We've got a couple of experts on skate wheels here so I'll leave the details up to them but hardness isn't always the thing you measure. Hard is for concrete, softer for asphalt: hard means the wheel chunks off and doesn't last as long. I'd let them recommend the hardness they think best. | ||
| Nedwreck |
I wouldn't call myself an expert, just sharing what I know. I also know that the harder wheels also tend to be much smaller in DIAMETER than the softer ones. | ||
| Naiguy |
ok most skate board wheels are urathane and harder the better for sliders. one time i was skating this ledge next to a bizzy street and lost my board into it. wham it gets stuck then dragged under a car for at least 150 ft. all four wheels where flat spotted but not all the way to the bearings. now its 2008 and the have new better wheels made of better things. http://skateboard.about.com/od/skateboardparts/gr/ BonesSTFWheels.htm | ||
| Naiguy |
http://skateboard.about.com/od/skateboardparts/gr/ BonesSPFWheels.htm i think they will both work but a wheel thats too soft will just chunk off like bits of blue cheese |
