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     Brucelee |
As you will see from the following, Honda has just announced a recall on the GW. Assuming that riders will react just like they did when Buell did recalls, should we not expect all Honda sales to plummet? Seems only fair! Honda Recalls Goldwing 1800s Posted on Tuesday, September 30 @ 12:52:16 PDT by SeanAlexander Honda sent the following bulletin to its dealers last week. We called a local dealer to verify this recall --MO. American Honda is conducting an important SAFETY RECALL on 2002 and 2003 GL1800/A Gold Wing motorcycles per the VIN ranges listed below. The recall procedure will be to add additional TIG welding to the frame where the lower cross member meets the side rails. Under certain conditions, some existing un-reinforced welds can crack, or fail. Effective immediately, YOU MUST NOT SELL any affected GL1800/A in your inventory until the required repairs have been completed. Please make sure ALL DEPARTMENTS in your dealership, Parts, Sales, and Service, are made aware of this action. Any sales of an affected motorcycle after receiving this notice and prior to repair is a violation of Federal law. The Service Bulletin for this recall will be mailed to your dealership the week of September 29, 2003. The bulletin will contain all instructions necessary to complete the repair along with a copy of the Customer Notification Letter that will be sent to all registered owners of affected GL1800/A motorcycles. The services of a competent and qualified welder to perform TIG welding on aluminum will be required. Please confirm that you have access to such a welder. If you need assistance locating a qualified welder, contact either American Honda's Techline or your District Service Manager. A kit containing required items that will assist the welder in performing the additional welds for this recall will be included with the Service Bulletin mailed to your dealership. AHM will provide flooring assistance on affected units effective 9-12-03. If you have recently sold a GL1800/A, please submit the warranty registration information. This recall does not affect the 2004 model GL1800/A, or 2002/2003 GL1800/A's not included in the VIN range listed below. Thank you for your cooperation. American Honda Motor Co.., Inc. Motorcycle Division Bulletin 03-0481 Please contact your Honda dealer to verify if your bike is affected. AFFECTED UNITS: 2002 Model: Non ABS Model: From VIN: 1HFSC470X2A111803 Thru VIN: 1HFSC47082A113582 ABS Model: From VIN : 1HFSC47432A102394 Thru VIN: 1HFSC47402A102823 2003 Model: Non ABS Model: From VIN: 1HFSC47013A200001 Thru VIN: 1HFSC47033A204860 ABS Model: From VIN : 1HFSC47483A200001 Thru VIN: 1HFSC47403A20112 Related Links · More about Honda · News by SeanAlexander -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Most read story about Honda: 2001 Honda Gold Wing Road Test edited by brucelee on September 30, 2003 | ||
| Blublak |
Hey, the cracking frame thing on the "Wangs" is an old deal. And I'm sure that almost nobody will say or hear (from the 'main' motor media) about it, or if they do mention it, it will be in the light of Honda as rescue ranger. Remember, they're not a 'Different' company that is based in the US. So they can't build junk. Of course, odd as it may seem, Buell is starting to get more and more recognition as a fine and reliable ride.. What is this world coming too? LOL! Later. | ||
| Dynarider |
And I'm sure that almost nobody will say or hear (from the 'main' motor media) about it, or if they do mention it, it will be in the light of Honda as rescue ranger. Motorcycle consumer news had a full page write up on this in the latest issue. | ||
| Brucelee |
Yes you are right. The japanese always build GREAT bikes. Of course, my son sold his suzuki. Could not keep it running. | ||
| Psychobueller |
Funny thing. My Dad has a 1800 Gold Wing and a Buell Cyclone. Guess which one has been sitting at the dealer's service department more? Between the overheating and the frame issues the 1800 is becoming tough to love. Too bad, because it's such a great ride. Meanwhile his Buell just keeps going and going and going.... | ||
| Hippo888 |
I have one of the affected GL1800s. From my extremely limited Buell experience the big difference between Buell and Honda is that Buell issues a recall/service campaign when they find something wrong. Honda issues a recall/service campaign when the NHTSA gets involved. Honda doesn't do shit until the gov't gets involved. Honda knew about the overheating for 3 model years and kept blaming the customers. They kept blaming the customers up until the NHTSA got involved. Even now, Honda's half-assed overheating fix doesn't work on some of the bikes. Also, bikes outside of the recall range are breaking their frames. Everyone in the Goldwing community fully expects the recall to expand in size (about 1/5 of all GL1800's are affected right now). There are also a host of non-drivetrain/chasis issues that are bothersome. I'm very disappointed in my Goldwing. So, from my tiny empirical test population of two bikes, my Buell has had far less problems than my Goldwing. Weird. Paul in MI | ||
| Newfie_buell |
I don't think Buell builds junk!!! | ||
| Roadrunr |
Uh OH, guess what. Ford builds junk too, That recall on the 2000 f-150 wiper motor proves it I guess. Damn good thing I got rid of it before I was burned alive by the fire it could have created. What a piece of junk, huh! | ||
| Richieg150 |
At the Buell 20th in East Troy,Eric Buell told us of a independent group who collects all the data from all the bike manufacturers and charts the bikes on reliability-recalls-ect.Their results arent published to the public but are to the bike manufacturers.Buell is at the top,NOT THE BOTTOM of this list! | ||
| Mikej |
Richie, It helps to know when mentioning such data if the top is better or if the bottom is better, ie: most reliable vs most trouble-prone. I assume you meant that Buells are among the least trouble-prone, but probably have some of the more outspoken troubled owners which definitely skews public perceptions. Did he mention the name of this independent data collection group? | ||
| Bads1 |
I think that's the JD Powers award.oooops sorry Court edited by bads1 on October 03, 2003 | ||
| Court |
The name is J. D. Powers and it's not an award but a consumer data aggregating service. They do issue seom sort of wards for consumber satisfaction. I am not certain that this is the specific firm in this case. Industry monitors maintain records of warranty $$ per unit mfg. I think, if we had this info, we'd find the Buell XB chassis tin hot competition with the Blast among the MOST RELIABLE MOTORCYCLES available. The caps are addressed to the nay-sayers heralding the death-nell of Buell 18 months ago. Court | ||
| Glitch |
Honda joins Buell in buiding junk!!!!! I don't care for the title of this thread. I've had only two things go wrong with my bike that wasn't my fault. The reflector below the tag came unstuck, and the "points" cover rivets have come loose. Hardly junk in my opinion. Even though I think they shouldn't have used rivets. | ||
| Chainsaw |
Hey, come to think of it, I had a loose point cover rivet too! You'd think a 10 cent fastener would hold forever, or at least more than 6 months. | ||
| Racerboy |
"The caps are addressed to the nay-sayers heralding the death-nell of Buell 18 months ago. Court" I was worried (but not a nay-sayer) when the tubies were dropped and then again after reading of the plummet in sales...Sometimes I lament the H-D/Buell connection but there is no doubt that the financial stability of H-D may have saved our marquee...Just as Polaris has supported and ridden through some rough times with Victory...Bye, bye Indian and many others...Will Fischer have the financial deep pockets to ride through it's inevitable start up hic-ups?... As to the topic of this thread I don't think there is a manufacturer of anything that doesn't stray at one time or another...My R11RT had a few issues and my ST1300 has an itty, bitty oil leak and the ACC position of the ignition has failed...Just seems to be the nature of these motos we so love that they sometimes let us down I think largely due to the environment they operate in and their exposure to the elements that autos do not confront...The problem for the manufacturers vs., say, auto guys, is that we give to much attention to our scooters that every little wart becomes a cancer...Buell's recall problem, as I viewed it, was not that they inconvenienced or hurt their customer relations so much as it did seriously damage their dealers who could not sell motorcycles during two consecutive riding seasons...I think it's going to take a while for that wound to heal... Recently Pumpkin left me stranded in Potosi MO for the first time and it does affect your perspective...Since re-entering this activity neither my Road Glide, M2, R11RT or ST13 has done that (but the ST is too new)...But then riding Pumpkin home last night on a very cool evening I found that I had taken a really long route and figured out it was that I was enjoying the feel of the ride so much that I didn't pull into the garage until about 2300...What would I exchange Her for?...Not anything else out there that has the same character and offers the same relaxed riding style... See Ya! Bob | ||
| Roadrunr |
BOB, what in the world were you doing in Potosi MO? | ||
| Racerboy |
Steve...Potosi is about seventy or so miles south of St Louis and it seems that a lot of our rides stop at the Citgo station there...Potosi is right on the northern edge of the Ozark's and the Mark Twain National Forest and as such is where the better roads start...We ride south of Mo Hwy 8 on SR P, C and DD to MO 32 and then over to Bixby MO and then south on SR KK...KK is special as there are several lead mines (Doe Run Co) and the road is built the handle their trucks during the week and is deserted on weekends...Sight lines are fast and it just long sweepers so you can see triple digits for about fifteen miles...You get to the end and your GPS max speed is likely to say 142...If the Iron County Sheriff ever figures out what we're doing on KK they will have to build a new wing on the county jail...Acually, the Iron County Sheriff's mother, Mary, is a friend of ours and a wonderful lady so we may have a smidgen of hope... See Ya! Bob | ||
| Roadrunr |
Just wondering cause thats where I went to high school. Never hear about it anymore. I did used to fly down 8 alot though, used to be a smooth road, great for bikes. Seems like there was also a great road that runs from Farmington to St. Genevive, I think it's EE you should try to find it.Enjoy, Steve | ||
| Brucelee |
BTW--I was being sarcastic with my heading. I love my Buell. It has been flawless. |
