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Houriganj
Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

any comments?
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks?

Performance?

Availability?

There's a bunch of discussion on another thread. Frankly, in my own opinion, it's a differently dressed Sportster. It's a bike for those who think Buell isn't "Harley Enough"

(Message edited by slaughter on June 23, 2008)
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Retrittion
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Harley Enough"?

Bah, its a Sportster -- and personally I think it is uglier than the standard Sportster. I mean, really, just get a Sportster and put some custom (or even XB parts) on it. A Sportster with Uly bits would be cool IMHO. This thing is just for those guys who want an "R" in the name but are still afraid of the corners.

Buell is a subsidiary of HDI -- it isn't even at all Harley these day with the 1125r except for the dealer who carries it. Personally, I still think Buell is what happens when someone tries to improve on things. If it wasn't a good product HDI wouldn't have purchased it, right?

(Message edited by retrittion on June 23, 2008)
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Slaughter-

Although I've yet to race on 2 wheels, I come from a roadrace background. Before I rode a bike, I hated the whole Harley thing. Drove me bananas.

Turns out that it's not really the bikes I didn't like. It's more the perceived mandate for what makes a Harley rider.

I think you've seen me get my FXD around some of the old Glendale BRAG rides. (Don't confuse me with the softtail dude who ground through his primary......) Now, I have no delusions of keeping up with a proper sportbike with a proper rider using a machine up for what it's worth. However, I've found AWESOME satisfaction in getting something like my Dyna (or, I imagine, the XR1200) a decent flogging. And in the context of those BRAG rides, it was the perfect bike. A more capable bike would have been BORING at those speeds. The Dyna was near it's cornering clearance limits - and that's with some minor butt hangage.

I have no problem with sportier rides - except that their performance envelopes (and I don't mean gas & brake) never get properly explored on the street - and perhaps they shouldn't be. I DO know that I ride my FXD for all it's worth. I doubt I'll ever ride my S2 for all it's worth.

Anyway, as it turns out, I'm not really a Harley rider. I ride a Davidson. And I think I'd LOVE to ride that XR.

-Saro
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think Slaughter hit it right on the head.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny, after riding the Buell, I was thinking that the new XR was not Harley enough. Meaning its Heavy, that XR750 was light nimble, flickable and a horsepower beast for the size of frame. I really feel this thing is more closer to the XLCR (which is a nice bike) than the XR750.
Put the siamese exhaust on it, and the bikini fairing, stand back squint, you can almost see 1978 ; )
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What drew me to Buell in the first place (after 30 years of Brit and Japanese) - was my youth fantasy of building an XR750 cafe racer.

I talked to a buddy of mine about it and he asked if I had ever heard of Buell... "Buell? What's a Buell?" In my case, the rest is history.

That heavy-looking XR-styled "street tracker" (if you want to call it that) just doesn't get it for me - but I've never wanted to have a bike that looked like a flat tracker for street use (also probalby why I don't "get" super motards either)

It's a matter of taste... and I have two ex-wives who will tell you that's the case.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From Storz:


quote:

Storz Performance,
Inc. announced that Harley-Davidson, Inc. has reached agreement with Storz Performance, Inc. of Ventura, CA to acquire Storz' trademark rights for the mark "XR 1200" (U.S. Trademark application No. 77/048680). Specific terms of the agreement are confidential. Storz Performance introduced its XR 1200 dirt track style conversion kits for Sportster motorcycles in January of 2005.




I still like the look of Storz XR1200 better... and I'd still LOVE to build an XR750 cafe racer.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""This thing is just for those guys who want an "R" in the name but are still afraid of the corners.""


You obviously aren't up to par with your Sportster knowledge. XL1200R
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Xb9rnutt
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WOW, After reading this topic I had to see what a XR1200 was. I know have to agree 100% with Slaughter.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There have been a few milestones in the Sportster family that are styling and performance icons for motorcycling
1957 The original
1971 Boattail, hate love lump it
1972 XR750 Race bike
1978 XLCR
1984 XL1000
1999-2001 XL1200S
2005-2007 XL1200R
and of course the ever popular current XL1200N Nightster

I wouldn't trade my Buell for any of them. (just add to!) I am eyeing that new XR1200 , but as a cafe. I am thinking of "Street" tracking the 2003 XL883R in the garage.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"It's a bike for those who think Buell isn't "Harley Enough""

I like the balance between Buell technology/styling and the "metal marbles in the blender" Harley power plant. I think we get the best of both worlds.
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Whitexc
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I too had to check one out after reading this and I must say...not too bad for a Sporty! It seems a bit pricey but...if they want it they'll pay it!
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