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Paulxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My front disk fells like it needs to be turned like you would a cars disk brakes can this be done on a XB?
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is what I use when changing pads. Works GREAT!!!!




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Paulxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it surges during braking i think it will need to take a little more off then just a cleaning but looks like a good tool their damnut
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Point_doc
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kevin Drum the builder of Drummer Muffler just last week informed me that a local shop turned his front rotor. Give him a call, (828) 324-9991 or KDfab.com
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Tq_freak
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paul, take the wheel off and clean the heck out of the rotor with a scrub pad and hot soapy water. Replace the stockers with Lyndal Gold pads and it will be fixed. The stock pads are prone to build up and makes it feel like a warped rotor.

Mine does it too (stock pads) but once it starts surging squeeze harder and it goes away. One these pads are close to being done I'm switching over.
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You might have the same problem many of us on Uly's have been dealing with. The stock pads will make the front brake pulse like crazy. When it gets to a certain point it won't matter if you are braking easy or hard it will pulse wildly.

To test this try putting some brake cleaner on a rag and wiping both sides of the rotor clean with it. If the pads are suspect, you will get a couple hundred miles out of the cleaning job with out the pulse.

The cure for most has been to replace the pads with the Lyndall Gold pads and do the proper break in procedure. You will swear you will have to turn the rotor, but this really works.
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Paulxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

tq freak these are the used wheels my factor wheels dont do this so i pretty sure its not the pads and the disk looks vary clean already
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Jlnance
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paulxb12r - It isn't that the pads themselves are bad. It is that they leave uneven deposits on the rotor. The Lyndals seem to be able to clean this up.

To answer your specific question, I do not believe that you can turn the rotor. I'm not sure why you can't, but I've never heard of it being done. Perhaps it is too thin.

American Sportbike does sell a hone for refinishing the rotors. It would probably fix the problem.

edit: The tool Damnut posted a picture of looks like what American Sport Bike sells. And, from reading above, apparently at least one person has turned a Buell rotor.

(Message edited by jlnance on June 11, 2008)
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes it is the same one that Al sells. I wanted to buy one from him but he didn't have any in stock at the time. I ended up buying it on EGay.
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Randomchaos
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting, I didnt realize the stock pads could cause this issue. I have been planning on getting a new rotor for mine because the front brake pulses pretty bad when lightly on the brakes. Will try cleaning them up now : )
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Nik
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paul, take the wheel off and clean the heck out of the rotor with a scrub pad and hot soapy water. Replace the stockers with Lyndal Gold pads and it will be fixed. The stock pads are prone to build up and makes it feel like a warped rotor.

I just did that this weekend and it feels like a new bike. I was worried I'd have to shell out for a new rotor.
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Bcarlson
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is the part number for the Lyndall Gold pads? I was looking on our website but we only show Vesrah pads associated with the Buell XB9SX...?

Thanks,

Ben
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Paulxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for the info every one

Buells rock
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Nik
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is the part number for the Lyndall Gold pads? I was looking on our website but we only show Vesrah pads associated with the Buell XB9SX...?

American Sport Bike > You

http://www.lyndallracingbrakes.com/apps/applicatio n_guide-buell.htm

(Message edited by nik on June 11, 2008)
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Paulxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't see a listing for a xb12r brake pads are they the same as the xb9 pads?
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yup
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Teddagreek
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought my disk was warped....

My front end would shake and pulse when braking..

Got Lyndals....
After proper brake in and a couple days of riding, no more shake...


Even if you don't like lyndalls,
I could see buying a sets to throw on once or twice a year to clean the rotor?
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Xbcrazy
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just jumping back to Paulxb12r's original post. Both front and rear rotors on the XB are Blanchard ground for flatness from the factory. Take a close look at the center portion of the rear rotor and you will see the spiral lines from the rotary table that is used to grind them. I don't see any reason why you couldn't have them ground flat again, similar to the way you would re-cut a car rotor. Most local machines shops would know a shop that has a rotary grinding table. Don't know what it would cost though.

Anyway, just a thought.

Pete
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Bcarlson
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nik, Thanks for the link... I thought of going to Lyndall's site after I asked the question... DOH! : )

I found the Lyndall Gold pads on our site, and have edited the fitment in our admin tools, however the changes won't roll until morning. Anyways, here's a link to the pads:

http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/search/search.jsp?searchString=buell+lyndall&resultType=subCategories

Our part number is #1901679 for the Front XB9SX (and other models that use the same), and the rear is: #1901680. Here's direct links:

http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=1901679
http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=1901680


Ben


(Message edited by bcarlson on June 12, 2008)
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Deanbush
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the brake pads are not the only problem. the main problem with the front brake is the piece of junk stock front master cylinder! I bought a used front mastercylinder lever assembly from a cbr 954rr and installed a remote resivor. at least 100 times better than stock! no fade,no pulsing and I can panic stop using my pinky finger. and I am still using stock brake pads,but I have purchased a set of Ferodo Sintered HH pads for front and rear.
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