| Author | Message | ||
     Firebolt32 |
I did a search on this and no links were found. I know they pretty much defeat the purpose, digging instead of sliding. Does anyone have these installed? | ||
| Flatliner_dnr |
Luckybike accessories makes all kinds of crazy barends, some with spikes. I don't think they make spiked axle sliders, but the sliders they do make are pretty nice and priced good too. It's an ebay store. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
Ebay is a great place isn't it. I just had a BadWeber email me saying I could use any slider. I'd have to take a piece of threaded rod to connect the two through the axle. Any thoughts on that? | ||
| Retrittion |
You could ask Dark Horse Moto or the like if they could make you one -- though to be blunt that seems a really dumb idea (not being judgmental on you, but the point is to protect the bike and the rider and these things would actually increase the likelihood of injury/death). Each to their own though. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
I understand your concern Ret. I understand the concept that the slider is a preventive piece rather than a cosmetic piece. I've got black spikes holding on my windscreen so I thought it would look BA to have them as sliders as well. That's why I post these ideas before executing them. I need the voice of reason. | ||
| Nillaice |
I DO! 'carbide' does too. we each made our own sliders (aluminum), with a pretty aggressive angle. i could almost call mine spikes. i'd say they are "spike-ish"   but not everybody has access to a lathe... i gouged them pretty good accidentally upon installation, so i'm not too scared they'll dig in and not just wear down/mushroom upon impact. oh, and if your worried about injury when you are between the axle and the ground, well..... you might as well kiss the baby at that point in time. never mind your spikes, what about the 400 pounds of machine? or that rotating hunk of rubber ready to chew through your gear, the asphalt or cars, rocks, the guard rail? "oh shít! no guard rail..... TREE!!!!!" yes, spiked axle sliders are not as safe as rounded-off sliders. however, i don't think that these "spikes" would make riding any more dangerous than some other things i've seen/tried that would make you thankful to be alive. like you said, Retrittion, to each their own | ||
| Bads1 |
Even if you escape injury from the spikes your bike on the other hand may not. Sliders should be flat to some what rounded so they can slide. Pointed means digging in and your bike thrashing around. | ||
| Retrittion |
Yeah, I think it would match your bike's look (its a BA bike) but I just can't suggest it's a good idea, even if I think it's a cool idea. It's a pivot point in a slide (thats bad) and a pointy bit in a crash (if it tipped on your foot or leg in the garage it would cause damage, never mind at speed). So, voice of reason says don't do it unless your making a show bike that never leaves the trailer. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
This is what I was looking at. These would do some damage. Now I don't think Nill's would be bad.  | ||
| Fastxb12r |
Firebolt32 where did you find those and are they able to be used with a tire stand? | ||
| Slaughter |
These scare the snot outta me. I came off and got a HUGE bruise running from under my ribs up and over my shoulder and it TORE my collarbone apart... and that was with racing leathers. I shudder to think about tangling up with those pointy weapons in lighter street gear that seems to be so popular. | ||
| Diablobrian |
I'm with slaughter on this. Those are designed for the spool mounts on a generic japanese sport bike swingarm. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
I highly doubt they would support a stand Fast. d2moto has them. They only way we can make them work on Buells is to run a piece of all thread through the axle. | ||
| Believer |
do you think this would fit on buell? It would looked great http://www.tobefast.com/sliders-spools-c-55012.htm l | ||
| Diablobrian |
Not unless you could adapt vortex frame slider bases to your Buell, or have something similar made, but in that case you'd be better off just having the entire slider made as a single piece. | ||
| Nillaice |
it is doable, provided you have access to a lathe.... you could machine them or the bases to fit inside the axle nuts. the bases appear that they might work right out of the box. the back "impailing sliders of death" that firebolt posted have plenty of material to work with. i'd start with those. you'd need the dia. to be .660 (front-right), .775 (rear-left), and two of them .875's for a snug fit all around. 3/8 inch shoulder should be plenty of meat to support the bike up on stands. your neighborhood machine shop shouldn't charge too much to do this for you. what do you got against thread-all? it seems to me to be the only way to secure these things so they can save your swingarm in a lowside situation | ||
| Nillaice |
10 bucks for the back "spikes of death", 3.84 for some thread all (got mine at lowe's), and the nominal fee for the machine shop and you could have a relatively inexpensive set to go hurt your self with  , while (more importantly) looking cool!  | ||
| Diablobrian |
nilla: I assumed if they were asking that they do not have access to a lathe, or they would make their own sliders (like I did on my lathe out of delrin). The other way to mount the standard UJM spool/spikes is to get the Hal's chain conversion like I have on my bike....but it would be cheaper to buy a lathe at harbor freight and make your own sliders if that was the only reason for doing it. There are many ways of skinning this particular cat, but some are more practical and logical than others. | ||
| Sweatmark |
I low-sided yesterday on spilled hydraulic oil in a turn. Dark Horse Moto spool sliders saved any thrashing on my XB's swingarm. The Dark Horse Moto got some good rash, even at 30mph low speed. There was sufficient force on the slider to tweak the alignment of the slider against the swingarm surface, as noted in the photo - unsure whether it's the threaded rod or the slider boss that's bent, will find out when repairs are started.    SO, consider the force applied to a spiked slider in comparison with smooth/rounded like the Dark Horse Moto. Aside from potential injury to rider, it's likely that the bending moment force caused by bike dragging pointed slider across road surface would either break off the slider or damage swingarm in vicinity of axle end. That's a high price to pay for looking bad-a$$. | ||
| Nillaice |
your neighborhood machine shop shouldn't charge too much to do this for you. i was suggesting this to those who don't have their own lathe. how does that chain conversion let you mount the UJM spools? | ||
| Airman_cb |
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| Diablobrian |
How do the Hal's chain conversions allow use of generic slider/spools? Like so:  and here is mine:  |
