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Jettdawg
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm in the market for a new Buell... hoping to get one in the next few weeks : ) I can't decide between an XB12SS and an STT. I just got home from a Demo Days event where I got to ride an SS, but it got rained out before I got to ride an STT.
I like the looks of the SS more, but like the idea of the longer travel suspension for these crappy NE roads (one test I read praised the STT for how well it handled potholes and such). And yes, I know I could get an STT and convert it... but that would end up making it cost more than the SS and I'd have a bike I think is goofy looking for a while until I got the standard fender and passenger kit, LOL.

So... has anyone here ridden both? Was there a noticable difference in the ride/handling between them?
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Jcbikes
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes I have ridden both and the suspension of the TT is great on bad roads. I really like the TT and if I ever get rid of my lightning, I would get one. You can put the SS seat on it and then your all set for a comfy ride. The SS is very nice but has the regular lightning suspension. The xtra travel mean a lot!
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got the TT, very happy with it.
Don't know about the US, but virtually all the European dealers supply them with the dual seat kit included, it's a 15 minute job to swap the bits over, you need 2 allen keys & a spanner.
The twin seat is a tad lower & a bit softer too.
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get a TT, and tell them if they want to close the deal, they'll go ahead and swap the seat and pegs out for you, like grumpy said. Then all you have left to do is change the front fender later on.

~SM
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

tires , the skins on the TT are a grippier choice and better for rough slash slippery muddy mucky uneven pavement in non track applications, Ie the rest of the world.
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Borrowedbike
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pull the number plates off and you're 95% "De goofified"

TT has better suspension, if your on rough roads, it's the right choice.
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Jettdawg
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL "De goofified" Actually, it's more the high front fender that makes it look goofy IMHO. Not too keen on solid white plastics either.
My roads aren't rough as in unpaved, just the typical New England roads... patched and not yet patched potholes, frost heaves, etc so I think the better suspension would be a big plus : )

Did a little playing with MS-paint and think I'd like to end up with something kinda like this IF I don't get the 2-up kit thrown into the deal:


All black STT
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Rkutzner
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rear plates actually do a great job of supporting throw over bags for day trips. The suspension is AWESOME for everything a non-track day guy will do. As far as that goofy duck bill...mine came off with 3 screws and since a front fender is not required in MD...I haven't had a reason to put a regular OR Uly fender on....yet, at least. Without the duck bill or any fender it is quite bad looking ! Can't wait for my gel touring seat to arrive now.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice paint job, Dawg.

Makes a great bike look great.
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The main draw back of not having a fender, is all the mess that the tire throws hits your visor. If you take off without having put your visor down, you get it in the face. If it's raining, it gets really messy.
It does look bad ass though.
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Jettdawg
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep... I was thinking that too (side plates as saddle bag supports). Easy enough to take off for day to day riding and put back on if needed. I think the regular "hugger" fender looks way better than the "duckbill" (as in the pics I posted above). Easy enough to get one off eBay if I can't talk the dealer into throwing one in : ) Tho really hoping to get them to throw in the passenger kit, don't know if U.S. dealers automatically get it like Euro dealers do as Grumpy said. So not sure if asking for a fender too would be too much, lol.

(Message edited by jettdawg on June 08, 2008)
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Rkutzner
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, glitch, you're probably right. I ride mine on 'chance of rain' days so I don't get caught in it much. I also wear a full face. On wet roads I don't notice any difference...my fender is actually pretty clean underneath.

If it's gonna be a washout..I take my truck. What a wimp, huh ?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cost of conversion is cheap, and you can just sell whatever parts you take off. Mine is almost complete : )

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Jettdawg
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lookin good Froggy... if only the STT came from the factory in Hero Blue : ) The one thing that'd keep me from converting it to blue (or even Cherry Bomb) is the price of the wheels (IMO, looks better with matching wheels than black ones).
P.S. I saw that all blue mockup on here a while back and saved it : )

(Message edited by jettdawg on June 09, 2008)
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, i got my blue wheels recently, its just a matter of getting them thrown on : )
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Jettdawg
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SWEET! Can't wait to see it : )
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Rkutzner
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's interesting, because compared to the price of any other aftermarket (let alone manufacturer) motorcycle wheels out there, Buell is practically giving theirs away.

At least that's the justification I'd give the wifey......
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plus, once you swap the wheels, you sell the old ones to recoup most of the cost. It sucks right now having the $700 sitting in my garage till i get the blue swapped on and sell the red.
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Rkutzner
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder how the red would look with the white plastics on my TT? Or the sunset orange? Could complement some nicely painted on flames....
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Jettdawg
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Something like this, Rkutzner? ; ) (slow day at work, lol)




STT
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Rkutzner
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm thinking it would look better with the orange rims with flames....and pull the flames off the 'Buell' letters

With the red rims I would do something USMC !!!
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Bigredwood
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 03:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought the the first STT in the Midwest. Even with its 'new model' status I had them throw in the passenger pegs, the SS touring 'gel' seat, and the Uly fender. The dealers won't move on the price, but my local HD shop had no problem throwing in parts.

In my opinion the suspension is worth it. (I love track days with this bike!!!)Changing out plastics and cosmetics is far more reasonable than buying the STT's suspension. The forks would be in the 2K price range alone.

Myself, I prefer the odd-ass look of the TT. I do get lots of stares and seem to always find a Jap-Liter bike ramping up at most streetlights. Maybe the plates reading "LTRETR" encourage this, but under an 1/8 mile and with the 9's primary . . . I prove it.

On the color schemes . . . get in good with a kustom guy that does powdercoating. I love the hero blue but if you paint all the plastic, my guy did the rims for a crisp franklin. I just cork-blasted them when I was getting new shoes (tires) and dropped them off. Two-days later daddy has blue laces with polished lips and new 616's!

Love the MS-paint!
-maybe whitewalls and taped headers on all white?
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Tiresmoke
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Though you might like to see black plastic on an STT. I just got the plastic on, I have a few things to do on it yet.

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