| Author | Message | ||
     Hogs |
HEy thats okay guys, seems like your the ones blowing the tubes......I`m glad theres more than a few forums on the net to deal with XB`s and buells in general you should check em out yourselfs ..there are some real men out there and I like to say also some real Gals that I`m sorry to say would also teach a few of you a few things as well ..But then again the few of you seems to be new to Motorcyling and the basic knowdledge of mechanics,..Gee and I said I wouldn``t waste the engery on ya...:-)) | ||
| Buellny |
I have the D&D and I love it. If the darn thing rusts, then I'll just take it off and repaint it. You would have to do the same with the stock can...it's steel as well. When I dynoed the D&D it put a lot of power in the mid-range, which is where I ride. I have zero complaints. I would pick the D&D over the Latus for sure. But in the Latus's defense....I never owned one. edited by buellny on June 02, 2004 | ||
| 420at145mph |
ditto and ditto | ||
| Minitrucker |
I have a Latus muffler and i love it. Excelent contruction and craftsmanship...all TIG welded, everything fit PERFECT on mine. Sounds good, performs good...can't ask for anything else. I also don't have a Race ECM... Rodi | ||
| Hogs |
Thanks Buellny and Minitrucker for your posts...What ya know there are people out there that LOVE their other pipes..:-) | ||
| Glitch |
What ya know there are people out there that LOVE their other pipes..:-) But selling their bike, right Mini? Edit: If you're sayin' I don't like my pipe you'd be right. The buell edited by glitch on June 03, 2004 | ||
| Torqer |
Glitch, Gerald Rinehart said he'd build a one-off system for my XB when we were chatting this weekend. (still no in-site on Canadian distributors for the D&D system).  | ||
| Yeahcmon |
Dude Hogs, you need a breathe-easy bro. If you want a good pipe buy the drummer(it's 350). If you want a loud pipe with no performance the buy two cherry bombs, weld em up and there you go.If you can't do that then maybe you need some basic mechanic knowledge. As for your menopausal attitude goes I think you need to go hug on a big one for awhile, maybe you'll feel better about yourself. Oh yeah, say hi to you new man friends for us, I'm sure there's lots of sausage at you new forum!!!!!! | ||
| Hogs |
Yeahcmon You must be all of 15 years of age..Go back to school... | ||
| Yeahcmon |
I may be young, but my gaydar works pretty darn good. Be careful what you smoke, causes cancer. | ||
| Yeahcmon |
I may be young but my gaydar works pretty darn good. Be careful what you smoke, causes cancer. | ||
| Glitch |
Glitch, Gerald Rinehart said he'd build a one-off system for my XB I'll trade you my  | ||
| Dyna |
I realize this doesnt fit in with the heading of this topic, but have you looked at Jardine? Seems quite a few folks are happy with the results & they are the cheapest of all the pipes. Look pretty cool to. If it were my bike & my money I would be torn between the Drummer or the D&D. Personally I would most likely end up with a D&D. | ||
| Skully |
I like my D&D and have dyno results posted in the "Tale Section" under the heading "From Cruiser to Sport Bike - An XB9S Rider's Log by Keith Thrash..." Keith | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Hogs as an aside I will tell you when I looked at the way you wrote out the title thread it struck ME as D&D /to/ Latus. Of which it would include everything else in between. A better title for what you wished would be simply "D&D or Latus". As well as a comment in your original post that you were not interested in the Drummer. | ||
| Hogs |
Wyckedflesh ""Could someone give me there thoughts on which "they " think is better performance wise etc.etc. and also a working url site for D&D exhaust thanks all.."" Now if I had to say not interested in Drummer would I not also have to say Force,Tiforce,Jardine,Harley race pipe,White Bros,SuperTrap, Modifly 9 and 12 can, etc.etc. and the list goes on..Whatever..All above pipes are GooD for whoever wants to run em..I`m not dumping on any pipes here PAl..So read into what you want...You sound like Drummer is the only other pipe out there?Why would you just mention the Drummer????in your quote???As well as a comment in your original post that you were not interested in the Drummer.Thats not in my original post...Why do I even answer these posts...like yours beats me.!! | ||
| Jasonblue |
I have had the D&D and really like it. I've had it for around 6 months and no rust yet. The sound is absolutely wicked. Hey Yeahcmon- If you think the D&D has no performance you really don't know what you are talking about. If me and you lined up and took off you would get a small jump, then I would pass you in the mid range, and in the top end it would be very close. The differance in these pipes really is miniscule. If one of us edged out the other it would be a matter of a few feet. Ride what you like and dare to be different isn't that part of the Buell philosophy? | ||
| Hogs |
BTW.. Thanks to all you gents, and of course LAdies if your here for your posts....HAve a Good One... | ||
| Dyna |
Jason, 99% of it would come to 2 things...rider size..ie weight & ability. The miniscule difference in pipe performance from one to the next wouldn't amount to anything worth mentioning. | ||
| Hogs |
JAsonblue ...Right on Pal Its all GooD BEsides Here in Canada a spray bomb of black paint runs like 2.95 a can geee might use half a can to touch up and would ya really have to take it off to touch it up :-)))Then guess what...IT looks like new again...Might have to do that what twice a year, ok maybe three times, that applys to all pipes..:-))) | ||
| Hogs |
Dyna your right , Personally I think I would go towards the pipe that sounded the best for "ME" since I`m an old die Hard Harley Rider....From the days of Knuckle Heads and PAnHeads...:-)I know some would not know what that means.... | ||
| Dyna |
Looks & sound are all that really matters now days. Same thing with the bikes, any machine you can buy is so much more capable then we are that it comes down to how you like the way it looks & how it makes you feel. | ||
| Johncr250 |
I`ve had the jardine on my XB12 for 2000 miles. Perfect fit, great quality , great warranty, repackable, aluminum can with stainless steel collector and brackets. Best part, you can get them under $230.00 I don`t think it can be beat at any cost. Bottom line, there are lots of good exhausts out there. Buy what you like and can afford. | ||
| M1combat |
First let me say - Hogs, WHERE do you want your power? OR Are you just going for sound? From what I have heard the DND and the Latus are the "coolest" sounding pipes if you like that raspy sound. I like the sound a bit deeper myself. As far as choosing a pipe you can make comparisons of dyno's on different bikes (of the same size) on different days but only look at the curve, not the numbers. Just for the record - To me it comes down to Drummer or Jardine. They both seem to be good on the low end and that's what I want. Different strokes though... "The miniscule difference in pipe performance from one to the next wouldn't amount to anything worth mentioning." I don't believe that's true Dyna... I believe that you would find that the pipe with the best combo of low to mid range will be noticeably faster. In our case that is the Drummer and Jardine. A while back Brian posted a dyno showing the time difference to redline on I think a Drummer and a D&D. As I recall the time difference to redline in whichever gear he used was significant. | ||
| Skully |
Here are the issues that I would address in purchasing a muffler. Having a different perspective from me, you might arrange them in a different order: Price Ease of installation and fit (and ability to use the stock chin fairing) Quality of construction (and warranty) Reputation Appearance Sound Performance All are self explanatory except for the last three. Appearance is subjective. Sound is subjective. What sounds good to me might be offensive to you. If there is a local Buell dealer, hang out there and listen to various bikes with different mufflers and see what you like. If this is not possible, many of us including me have a/v clips that can be emailed. Performance is not a straight forward as one might think. You simply must decide where it is you really want to ride. Do you just tool around short shifting as though you were on a Harley? Do you ride aggressively, but only occasionally hit the rev limiter? Or do you run it to redline with every shift? How you answer this question should have a lot to with your choice. When I chose the D&D, there were not many choices. The Buell race muffler, D&D, Force, and Latus were about it. I ride aggressively, only occasionally bumping the rev limiter. So, I studied the dyno charts for each of them, compared prices and all of the other issues, and decided the D&D was what I wanted with its strong mid-range. When I dyno tested the D&D with a K&N filter and modified intake box (see "From Cruiser to Sport Bike - An XB9S Rider's Log by Keith Thrash..." in the "Tale Section" for specifics), I got nearly a 20% increase in HP and torque through the mid-range. Right where I ride. Hope this helps. Keith | ||
| Hogs |
Thanks M1combat, Personally I Think unless one is into Drag racing and your looking for that tenth of a second more, as we all know You can go SO fast for some much coin, and once you reach that point the cost to go FASTER starts to cost you a whole lot more to go faster example ,cams, valves, head work, etc.etc.In which I`m not interested in Drag racing with my buell I have with a TOP FUEL HD. on NITRO so...that being said they r for the most part ALL good...Sound on this machine XB, is what i`m after i guess, as the stock can don`t sound like a HD. to me..D&D,LAtus,will give that to me, D&D is where I`m leaning.....thats just me. | ||
| Hogs |
Skully.. Thanks MAn good post.....Rode a xb9s today with 6500 klms. on it while my 12r was in getting the 1600 klms check up etc. the 9s had a HD. race kit on it :-)) I took that sucker for a blast said I would be back in a few mins. hah came back in like 30 mins. after having fun...MAn that baby hauled •••...took it to 7000 rpms jamed it into 2nd up she came..MAN can`t wait until I get more clicks on my 12. IF it flys like that I`ll be a HAppy Camper..The dealer has A complete RACE kit in stock for mine now.hmmmm tell me something they have it with a CERmaic Muffler is that any different than the regular race can.. STill don`t think its loud enough or just not the right tone for me.. but can get it at a deal..think i`ll stick to getting the D&D though...MAn once again that 9 sure did FLY :-))) | ||
| Glitch |
The dealer has A complete RACE kit in stock for mine now. Trust me on this. Go ahead and get the kit, but, leave off the muffler. The Buell Race muffler has a great big hole in the torque band. Unless you ride mostly above 4500rpm you won't be happy with it. So get the ECM and filter and the pipe you decide on (sounds like the D&D is for you). If ya wanna see the hole for yourself check out the Knowledge Vault. | ||
| Hogs |
Glitch okay pal Thanks...funny though riding that xb9 today I found no hole that mother pulled from start to finished but then again that was wot ...so like u say just cruising around could be like you say thanks man... | ||
| M1combat |
I think you'll spend less money if you just get the filter and ECM and not the whole kit... Then get the pipe of your choice. |
