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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I found these on the Net. Any recommendations other than one of these two? Or an opinion on which of these two might be more functional or kinder to rims?









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Hammer71
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Top one is way better, No Mar products are top notch, work as stated and they stand behind their products. Many here have the No-Mar bar and swear by it.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks. I noticed on further inspection that that wilco stuff is just a harbor freight upgrade.

I KNOW there is a bar that is made by an "individual" that looked great. I checked his site about a year ago and he was backordered. I sure wish I remember who that was.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

YUP! Hammer knows what works...

He showed me the light a year or so ago...

No Mar Bar! Yup it works great! All the NEBO guys can attest to it also. I have done a couple dozen tires with that bar...
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 No mar.
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Ulywife
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+2 No Mar
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you use the No Mar bar without the whole machine?
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Hammer71
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 07:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sure can.
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

anyone have a link on the net for just the bar then?
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Hammer71
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/product/show/6
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Jimduncan69
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hammer, i know you have the bar. but what do you use to hold the tire?
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Hammer71
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To take off, Break bead, insert bar and insert small handle thing in the axle hole, stand wheel up on tire and rotate bar, do same for other bead (tire now off).

Mounting, Lube tire bead, push tire on and line up balancing marks, second bead wont go on all the way, wood wedge or hold it by hand (firbolteric uses those plastic handi claps), rotate the bar around the bead and boom all done.

Will have to video it some day as it's much easier to show someone than to explain it. I will admit though that some tires are so stiff I get a tad pissed off and just spoon them on. Then I go pull the bar out of the wall or ceiling
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What are you guys balancing with?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What are you guys balancing with?

I use a static balancer picked up on ebay for about $70 IIRC. yes, it can take a while, especially if you are anal about stuff. However, you are probably spending MUCH more time than someone else would on your balancing. Plus, a couple more beers isn't bad either.

We have done probably 10 balancings with the static balancer with NO problems.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What are you guys balancing with?

A pair of jack stands and the bar from the towel rack in my bathroom. Really. : )
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool, so you just use the axle on jackstands, and the wheel bearing friction is low enough to get the heavy spot to move down?

I've always wondered why people don't do that, I assumed the wheel bearings didn't move freely enough.

(Message edited by spatten1 on May 01, 2008)
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Ccryder
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That will work but, it may dampen out some of the imbalance, due to the stiction. I've used 5gal plastic pails with some big bearings and the axle. You just need to flush the grease out. It a matter of balance, clearance and, low friction.

90% of the time you could get by without balancing, or you could use those beads (where is Blake when you need an expert ;+})

Neil
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

5gal plastic pails with some big bearings and the axle:

Great idea too. I imagine getting the grease out and replacing with a low viscosity lube would work great!

This thread rules.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool, so you just use the axle on jackstands, and the wheel bearing friction is low enough to get the heavy spot to move down? "



Read about the jackstand trick somewhere else. Towel rod was handy and a perfect fit for the wheel bearings.
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