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Jdorp_
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i currently own a HJC cl-sp helmet. i find it very noisy. wondering if anyone knows of a helmet that is less noisy. i heard the shoei rf-1000 is a very quiet helmet. but i hear of alot of guys on here wearing scorpion helmets. i dont know alot about them, so any feedback would be great.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my shark rsx is very quiet compared to my hjc ac12 carbon.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

An Arai might be quieter, but I won't be buying another. Mine's pretty noisy.
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Retrittion
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, I wear an Arai (RX7) and the guy I ride with all the time wears a Scorpion (EXO700) and we are both happy campers -- ok, we are silly happy campers. I have also heard some excellent things about Suomi helmets and of course Shoei are decent as well.

Here is the thing though -- what I do, and what a lot of riders I know do (especially the really good ones, instructors and such) is wear ear plugs when riding to filter out noise. Not only does it make it quieter for riding but it has been my experience that the ear plugs reduce my rider fatigue by a ton. For this reason I highly suggest wearing them, regardless of the helmet you wear.

Bottom line though, the helmet is there to protect your brain, so I would stay with Suomi, Scorpion, Arai, or Shoei (in that order of preference). Suomi are structurally brilliant, but they don't fit everyone and a bit pricey. Scorpions are the best helmet for the money right now -- they meet the highest US and Euro standards and the new EXO 1000 with the double visor is Arai nice, the 700 is brilliant. Arai are Arai -- they haven't changed much in the last 10 years but then again since their helmets are the benchmark this isn't really a negative, more like a quibble -- and they are EXPENSIVE ($600+ for the good one). Shoei are a decent helmet, a bit pricey for what you get though, and it is arguable that if you are going to pay that much you might as well buy a Suomi or an Arai.

My next helmet purchase (this year or next) will be a Scorpion (can't beat the $ for quality) or Suomi (seriously, have you seen their graphic options or the website -- these guys go the extra 15.7 miles).

Cheers,
Ret
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Mesozoic
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 03:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Each helmet manufacturer uses a different head template, so ultimately the decision must be made based on fit. Obviously, Arai and Shoei are top line brands, but you've got to try one on before committing to a purchase. I'm currently running a Suomy Spec-1R. Nice fit or my noggin.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 06:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have hated every helmet I ever wore.
Had a minor bender, bounced off a Dodge, from poor vision, Bell Star 120 (Circa 1977).
Only "helmet" I'd wear was a leather flyer's cap.

Then I got a Nolan N-100 modular.
I liked it and bought an extra one, gave it to my brother.
Replaced it with an N-102c when I got my 1125R.

I'll never go back to D-rings

Zack
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Firebolt32
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i currently own a HJC cl-sp helmet

Great...I just bought the HJC cl-15
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's nothing 'wrong' with the HJC helmet, Firebolt. Two of my three lids are HJC (CL-12s, both of them, I believe), and I love them, primarily because they fit my head perfectly. I've unfortunately not been able to find another brand that felt as snug without being too tight on my skinny-assed head.

As to noise...well, I don't consider it to be a problem, but I have no frame of reference. I always wear ear plugs and at anything under 60mph have my visor open, so I just consider the noise to be a part of the ride.

I can't disagree with the assessments regarding quality of one brand versus another, but as with virtually everything else in life, one can likely assume that you get what you pay for, and HJCs ARE on the cheaper side of things. C'est la vie...
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Mikexup
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought a Scorpion EXO400 last week for the exact same reason..wanted to get a helmet that was quiet and could enjoy the ride more. I was a skeptic, I have never found a helmet that was quiet by my standards. The owner of the shop where I bought the helmet said I could bring it back if it wasn't what I wanted..he had just bought one himself and was impressed with it. It is quiet, but I also wear ear plugs like I have with all my helmets. I will keep this helmet.
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Coyote5797
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The thing that would concern me is not noise but being too quiet. I like to be able to hear what's going on around me. You know cars, people yelling, horns, sirens. I have a KBC and it dampens noise well, but I can still hear what needs to be heard. Hearing a fire truck kept me from getting smoked one night.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i can hear sirens further away with ear plugs than with out.
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Jdorp_
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my hjc fits very well, but so does the shoei rf-1000. the scorpion exo-1000 doesnt fit as well. i also do wear ear plugs, but not all the time. i dont have anything else to compare the hjc to, i dont mind spending the money for a better helmet, i just want it to be quieter. arai's dont fit me at all.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i went from a xl hjc ac12 carbon to a xl shark rsx.

the fit is very similar at the top of my head, cheek padding is a little more snug but i like it better than the looser hjc around the face.

(Message edited by badlionsfan on April 14, 2008)
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Teddagreek
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a RX-7 Corsair and love it... Love the way Arai does different interior helmet shapes for different heads.. The D ring can be a pain the ass I eventually put a Echo Quick Release on it and love it.


Mine is pretty quiet compared to my old HJC..
The wind noise was so high pitched my ears would rind after a long ride.


I've tried ear plugs but I hated it that quiet... I don't need to hear my self breath or my nose whistle : )


As far as noise level I think it attenuates noise DB down perfectly.. Wind noise is better but still there, I'm going to try cotton balls I've that cuts it out..
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Spatten1
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The thing that would concern me is not noise but being too quiet. I like to be able to hear what's going on around me.

The wind noise is the problem, in a cheap "loud" helmet you will hear less of the important noises due to all of the wind and whistling.
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Mr2shim
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

<3 scorpion exo 400. Thinking of buying a 700 in the summer time. LOVE my Ex0-400
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Od54
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got a Nolan 102 and I love it. The VPS is amazingly better than I thought it would be. I've got a very oval head so its hard to find a good fit. This one is a little tight front to back but I'm use to it with any of them. A lot quieter than I thought it would be for a modular.
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Bcool83
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>> The thing that would concern me is not noise but being too quiet. I like to be able to hear what's going on around me. You know cars, people yelling, horns, sirens. I have a KBC and it dampens noise well, but I can still hear what needs to be heard. Hearing a fire truck kept me from getting smoked one night. <<<

Ear plugs will allow you to hear MORE, not LESS.

My Suomy is loud as hell. My HJC's were comparatively quiet. I'll likely try a Scorpion next, as I've heard lots of good things about them...but never another Suomy.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard good things about these..


quote:

Filtered Earplugs


Filtered earplugs are beneficial when individuals want to have the ability to hear their outside sounds, but still maintain a safe level of protection. They can be used in several industrial as well as recreational activities to "take-the-edge-off" harmful noise levels. (It is always E.A.R.'s recommendation to have an audiogram taken after every year to make sure your hearing protection choice is doing its job correctly).

Please review the following selections as we have several versions to choose from depending on your particular activity and requirements.

Acoustic Filtered Earplugs


Acoustic Filtered Earplugs
These specialized patented filters are inserted into a custom mold to allow safe sounds, those below 80dB like normal conversation, to pass virtually unattenuated. Yet for sounds higher then 80dB, these filters act like mini-restrictors and limit the sound attenuation to OSHA regulated requirements. Best used for industrial noise and shotgun sports where individuals want to hear some conversation or audiotory signals coming from machinery.

Learn more about our Acoustic Filtered Earplugs
http://www.earinc.com/p1-filtered-afiltered.php




Sonic Valve Custom Earplugs

Sonic Valve Earplugs
Sonic Valve hearing protectors are special patented hearing protection devices designed to allow low level sounds, not harmful to hearing, to pass through. But offer effective hearing protection against high level, high impulse noise which are harmful to hearing. Generally used in aviation, music and sound engineers to reduce "noise hangovers" and ringing ears.

Learn more about our Sonic Valve Earplugs
http://www.earinc.com/p1-filtered-sonicvalve.php


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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

those look cool, but i'd lose the damn things. i bought a bag of the foam jobs from aerostich. they're individually packaged pairs, so if i lose one or something i just tear open a new pair.
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"i can hear sirens further away with ear plugs than with out."

What he said. I know it seems counterintuitive, but you actually can hear the important stuff much easier when you've got a pair of earplugs in. I've just got a big bulk package of the foam ones, and I keep a few extras under the seat in case I lose one. The few times I've had to ride somewhere after losing one and not having a replacement quickly reminded me why I DO.
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Nillaice
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 nolan

+1 ear plugs
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